The facts

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The facts

EP — 9/19/2005 4:17:36 PM (archived)

The rate of ozone depletion fell after the Challenger grounding
The rate of ozone deplettion fell again after the Columbia grounding

About 4 groups of atmospheric scientists predicted this, with plausible linking mechanisms

That's the facts

By the way, I can see why you're working on lasers in Hawaii.
Half the Pacific Ocean separates Hawaii from Berkeley.

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Ozone depletion rate as predicted - E.P. - 9/17/2005 3:29:42 PM
- Much simpler answers - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2005 2:30:20 PM
  - Got any evidence? Any at all? - dtb - 9/19/2005 3:56:17 PM
    - Ozone is being broken down by solar radiation. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/19/2005 7:41:17 PM
    - Natural ozone holes - dtb - 9/19/2005 5:26:09 PM
    - Okay, I'll give you that one. - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2005 5:09:04 PM
- May I trouble you with the facts? - R.L. - 9/17/2005 10:07:06 PM
  - Certainly, but the problem appears to be with aluminum, not chlorine - EP - 9/18/2005 4:10:45 PM
    - Do you have any legitimate data for this claim? - R.L. - 9/18/2005 7:26:31 PM
      - Yes (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 9/18/2005 7:44:14 PM
        
        Lesson #1 for E.P. - R.L. - 9/18/2005 8:20:01 PM
        
        Thanks for the link - Lesson #2 for R.L. - EP - 9/18/2005 11:25:38 PM
        
        Back up your claims with facts or drop the subject. - R.L. - 9/19/2005 1:03:02 AM
        
        The facts - EP - 9/19/2005 4:17:36 PM
        
        I find it telling that you refuse to say who these 'researchers' are - R.L. - 9/19/2005 4:26:42 PM
        
        Same ones cited in that AF article (n/t) - E.P. - 9/19/2005 6:47:07 PM
        
        All of the named researchers found the OPPOSITE of what you claim? - R.L. - 9/19/2005 7:42:43 PM
        
        THEN PRESENT IT!!! - R.L. - 9/18/2005 8:03:50 PM
        
        Here ya go... - EP - 9/18/2005 11:05:26 PM
        
        You are being deliberately deceptive - R.L. - 9/19/2005 12:58:58 AM
        
        Let me see: "mine" "theirs" - clear enough to me - EP - 9/19/2005 4:23:42 PM
        
        I looked for those studies... - R.L. - 9/19/2005 4:41:59 PM
        
        That is very dishonest, EP - R.L. - 9/19/2005 4:33:13 PM
        
        **Vulgar reply moved to Flame** (n/t) - ModBob - 9/19/2005 8:15:48 PM
        
        But "atupid lying hack" allowed to remain - EP - 9/21/2005 1:40:50 PM

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