But as far as I can see, you're still heading in the same direction.

It's almost impossible (outside a university) to find someone who openly advocates Marxism, but if you work on a typical liberal long enough, you'll find that most of them settle on a vague idea that somehow, there's a "third way" that will allow "society" to deal with "economic inequities" and "the needs of the people." A general hostility toward business and industry usually leaks through, too. If you listen long enough, you get engulfed in the warm tapioca of generalities and vague concepts.

But at the bottom of it all is still the fantasy that if you give enough economic power over to the State, that if the right people had their hands on the controls, that somehow they would make it all work better.

"an economic system that has some place for consideration of the general welfare."

Our current Federal budget, including those wonderfully-named "entitlements," is approximately two-thirds "general welfare." How much is enough?

The European model, sucking off the innovation of less rigid societies, is going broke, and stagnating. I don't want to go there.