It's a simple question. It, and I, am amenable to a rational answer.

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Bowser — 9/10/2006 6:39:58 PM (archived)

You define "moral equivalence" in your own manner, then. Or answer some simple questions.

"Torture" means "torture", and whatever the act, is it OK for George Bush and not OK for Saddam Hussein, even though done for the same reasons.

George Bush's agents have tortured people to death in the name of "national security". Saddam Hussein's agents did the same. Is it then reprehensible "moral equivalence" to say that both are heinous crimes and both people should be held accountable?

Very simple. Rational argument. Yes or no.

Hitler set up a puppet government in Czechoslovakia. Bush set up a puppet government in Iraq. (That it doesn't reflect the will of the people is evidenced by the fact it would collapse if not for US troops propping it up.

Both preemptively invaded a harmless country, using national security as an excuse. In neither instance was national security in any danger. Are you saying that to equate those invasions is "moral equivalence" and therefore bad.

Yes, or no.

Arf

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Sen. Rockefeller, Intelligence committee - "Iraq Would Be Better With Saddam." - Bowser - 9/10/2006 1:24:08 AM
- And Germany would be better under Hitler (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/11/2006 6:24:11 PM
  - I'd like to see someone follow up on that. - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2006 6:34:49 PM
    - Not the "Dhimmi Option," the "Dummy Option"! (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/12/2006 4:40:42 PM
- "The Disingenuousness Of Jay Rockefeller" - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2006 5:48:16 PM
- Bush's "democracy" - "Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib " - Bowser - 9/10/2006 2:16:50 PM
- Well, sure he does. - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2006 3:12:05 AM
  - Black and white thinking again. Tell me how that flows. - Bowser - 9/10/2006 3:58:05 AM
    - re: thinking again - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2006 6:50:38 AM
      - Help with understanding "moral equivalence". - Bowser - 9/10/2006 2:23:44 PM
        
        re: Help with understanding - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2006 5:41:32 PM
        
        re: Help with understanding - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/11/2006 3:06:19 AM
        
        It's a simple question. It, and I, am amenable to a rational answer. - Bowser - 9/10/2006 6:39:58 PM
        
        See? Nobody home. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2006 6:47:18 PM
        
        I'll try for you. And do a good job, just for you. - Bowser - 9/10/2006 7:51:05 PM
  - Whoops, sorry. - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2006 3:13:40 AM
    - What??!! - Bowser - 9/10/2006 4:13:10 AM
      - You guys talk PAST each other - Lindy - 9/10/2006 8:22:16 PM
        
        Not exactly. He doesn't want to admit what he means. - Bowser - 9/10/2006 11:28:50 PM

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