Another study for comparison

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Another study for comparison

Tom Brosz — 10/12/2006 4:01:32 AM (archived)

This one from the U.N., surveying over 21,000 Iraqi households, and using similar methodology.

Their conclusion, at the time the Lancet group was announcing 100,000 deaths, was that such deaths numbered 24,000.

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Johns Hopkins/Lancet pull another number out of their asses. - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2006 4:07:44 AM
- Another study for comparison - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 4:01:32 AM
  - Well... - Laurie Street - 10/12/2006 6:30:33 AM
    - re: Well... - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 10:37:41 PM
      - Exact meanings - Laurie Street - 10/13/2006 1:58:29 AM
- Considering no nukes, WMDs, no al-Qaeda no link to WTC - how many is too many? (n/t) - Bowser - 10/11/2006 6:49:21 PM
  - The "doesn't matter if it isn't true, the truth is bad enough" defense. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2006 6:54:03 PM
    - Please do NOT say it doesn't matter. How many innocent lives is too many innocent lives? (n/t) - Bowser - 10/11/2006 7:20:38 PM
- Link to actual study - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2006 5:35:40 PM
  - Shows a narrower range of estimates than the previous study - Laurie Street - 10/11/2006 6:28:30 PM
    - re: Shows a narrower range of estimates than the previous study - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2006 6:52:46 PM
      - re: Shows a narrower range of estimates than the previous study - Laurie Street - 10/11/2006 7:06:04 PM
  - Thanks - Robert - 10/11/2006 6:10:57 PM
    - Inconsistency - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2006 6:39:33 PM
      - Argument by incredulity - Robert - 10/11/2006 8:25:46 PM
        
        re: Argument by incredulity - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 1:46:58 AM
        
        "Perspective"? - Robert - 10/12/2006 3:05:41 AM
        
        "Yeah, it's probably BS but we need to do some real studies." I'll settle for that. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 3:47:54 AM
        
        See also "another study for comparison" above. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 4:02:59 AM
        
        Please do (n/t) - Laurie Street - 10/12/2006 3:51:04 PM
      - re: Inconsistency - Laurie Street - 10/11/2006 7:20:55 PM
        
        re: Inconsistency - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2006 7:56:47 PM
        
        au contraire - Laurie Street - 10/11/2006 9:57:17 PM
      - Six Fallujahs - Mary Anne - 10/11/2006 7:11:25 PM
  - OK, thanks. I'll read it. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/11/2006 5:58:49 PM
- That's nothing. Remember the ONE MILLION IRAQI CHILDREN who supposedly died due to the sanctions? - David F Mayer - 10/11/2006 5:33:48 PM
  - People may be a little busy to dig up bodies of dead children for forensic investigation. - Mary Anne - 10/11/2006 10:23:15 PM
- Does it make you feel better, Tom... - Laurie Street - 10/11/2006 3:29:58 PM
- What should be disturbing.... - Donald - 10/11/2006 12:47:00 PM
- Cluster surveys, used in this study, are routinely used to determine rates of death in natural disasters. - Mary Anne - 10/11/2006 12:17:11 PM
  - re: Cluster surveys, used in this study, are routinely used to determine rates of death in natural disasters. - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2006 4:30:27 PM
    - The first point is a problem. Who are the authorities? - Mary Anne - 10/11/2006 4:52:57 PM
      - re: Who are the authorities? - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2006 5:34:04 PM
        
        We'll see. - Mary Anne - 10/11/2006 5:55:17 PM
        
        re: We'll see. - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2006 6:50:02 PM
        
        You know, I hear that same definition of "peer review" from creationists. - Mary Anne - 10/11/2006 7:16:06 PM
        
        I also still haven't read the thing yet, and won't as long as I'm arguing with you. - Mary Anne - 10/11/2006 7:17:38 PM
- Got any idea why Bush & Co. don't keep track of Iraqi deaths? - Bowser - 10/11/2006 6:37:04 AM

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