"Behold!
I come amongst thee disbelievers and scoffers to prove my existence and the existence of a masterplan. You believe that I am cruel to send a nose full of porcupine quills into thy dogs nose and to give the 3 year old cancer.
Tales of my omnipotence have been greatly exaggerated. I am eternal. I am all-seeing and yet my creations must make their own choices and learn from their own experiences!
You want compassion? What is this compassion you seek? You want that I should interfere and save your dog from the quills? Your dog learned a valuable lesson that day - stay away from porcupines! I see what you cannot. In six months your dog would've again tried to chase after a porcupine and this time he would've been killed by the penetration of quills into his spleen and abdomen. The nose full taught him a valuable lesson. Bark at porcupines - but keep your distance!
All these things happen for a reason. I've left enough clues and evidence all around you to make it plain enough to see: Today's evil is the basis for tomorrow's good! And yesterday's good turn's into tomorrow's evil! How hard can it be to figure these things out?
And the sicknesses of the innocent? There ARE no INNOCENTS. You weren't born yesterday. Neither were the newborns! There are lines here miles long filled with folks trying to return into the physical. They promise me they'll do better. They promise to make amends for their past actions, but all too often they forget. In fact 99 out 100 times they forget.
I send angels down all the time to help folks. To give pointers and tell where the land lies. And not one of these angels are preaching at any churches. My angels are an all volunteer army and they endure a lot to teach others. They teach by example. They don't mind being born and then dying a few year later of some debilitating disease if it serves a greater purpose. These beings are selfless. They make no sacrifice either, in fact they realize all efforts to assist others really only help themselves.
Okay. Back up. You didn't understand what I just said.
They make no sacrifice either, in fact they realize all efforts to assist others really only help themselves.
That's right. Lissen up. This is GOD talking.
You CAN'T help another person.
Oh sure, you think you help people all the time. Your egos are filled with acts of "charity". You give to the poor. You've helped feed the homeless. You gave canned foods for your child's food drive. You've taught your child, loved your child, loved your parents, helped your parents.
And despite all these things you've only helped yourself.
Yes, I know. Humans are such dense creatures at times. I have to spell it out. All beings can only assist themselves. Everything else is window dressing. Homes, cars, clothes, food, money, make-up - all this is window dressing. Yes, window dressing it means nothing. It is made up of gossamer strands. It's the cotton candy of the material universe.
The only things that matters are experience, knowledge and wisdom. All these other things just help provide two of the former and it is up to EACH individual to provide the latter.
Yes, by helping others you ONLY help yourself. Everyone else must help themselves as well.
So if you expect me to get all teary-eyed because you helped yourself think again!
Up here we don't use names much. We're way beyond that stuff. We don't have bodies, heads, eyes or anything else you imagine. We are thoughts. I am pure reason. I exist in harmony with all things, both "good" and "evil" - and, in fact, I make no differentation between the two!
I have no rules. I write no books. I condemn not and I judge not. YOU create all these things.
My very existence, points out the path of immortality, of eternity, of infinity and then you denigrate me, you defile my name with false words, false teachings and human-like personality traits! Your books make me out to be a murderous butcher, a cruel sadist and perverse in ways only humans can be perverse.
You say I reward those that are good! I do nothing of the kind! They must reward themselves - and they do!
You say I punish the bad! Again, I do nothing of the kind! Everyone punishes themselves when they fail to use experience and knowledge to manifest wisdom!
Of all the infantile human thoughts! And why? Why disparage me so? I'll tell you why, because it gives you an out - an escape - a way to pass the buck. If someone lives a happier life - God blessed them! If someone is miserable God is testing them!
I don't do blessings. I've never blessed a single child or adult -ever! What in the universe good would it do for me to bless them!
I can't help them!
I can't punish them!
So what in the Infinite's name could a blessing do? And for that matter I don't want any kids dipped in cow's urine or a proxy either! Manifestations of pagan barbarism - and then, again, blaming me for these actions!
That's more mind game stuff humans do. Blessings! Indeed. Oh, and that brings up the next human monstrosity put upon me - prayer!
'Pray to God!' What on Earth for! Pray to yourselves! I have no power to help or harm you! Get up off your knees, get out of those musty churches and take the veils off your faces! I never endorsed a single religion - the thought is preposterous at the very face of it!
Pray to yourself! Make a pledge to make better decisions! Use every ounce of knowledge at your disposal and always seek to obtain more! Cease to blame others for all that happens to you and place the blame on your own shoulders - no one else's! Nothing could make me happier than to see your tiny world take responsibility for its own destiny!
And Jesus? Yes, he is my son. But you are ALL my children. He didn't die for your sins and quit telling folks that lie! Some butchers killed him and that was that. I don't do the sacrifice thing. I don't take blood as some form of payment. That's more of that aboriginal human thought again! Jesus is a good guy - a clever guy. He knows me and knows a good bit of the way things work. But there are a billion and one Jesus' out there doing much the same thing on a billion and one world almost identical to yours - bucking the system, spreading a bit of wisdom out there - and helping themselves. That's right, Jesus was helping himself. The miracles he performed were only for those who were ready, preconditioned for them, and he performed them to assist himself. Others walked away, unhealed, and cursed him. Just as folks here curse me! And when will you take those barbaric crosses off the wall? Pagan symbology! I had hoped you would out grow that during the 19th century! If you could only see what I see - the grey clouds of darkness, fear, paganism and symbol worship that surround your world!
They curse me for giving a child cancer at three! I didn't give the kid cancer - they gave it to themselves. It's all part of their learning process and I wouldn't interfere with it, even if I could! To do so would be the real harm! Robbing people of experience, robs them of knowledge and therefore of wisdom!
When some misguided human prays to me to take away an illness or to save someone's life or just to get a good grade on a final exam, I merely sigh. And it happens millions of times every day! For Infinity's sake - get a clue people:
I don't interfere!
Get well, save lives and pass your own exams!
And all that talk from the Middle East about virgins and paradise. Nonsense! There are no virgins up here at all! Everyone who makes it his far is very experienced! And what's more - there is no sex up here at all! We don't have bodies and sharing our minds is far more enjoyable than rubbing cells. It takes the average human about 6000 years worth of lifetimes to evolve off of the Earth. Give or take a couple thousand years if they are quicker or slower on the uptake.
Don't expect to find any virgins on the earth either! Your world is not a primary elemental world for 'new souls' it is more of an intermediate elementary world - with the emphasis on elemental.
Hey, I'm God. The real deal. I don't hold the truth back to spare feelings.
There are no pearly gates here. In fact here is beyond your conception! Here is everywhere! I am everywhere, everyplace, everytime and with everyone. It distresses me to have to spell this out in such a manner.
You can't have an ego up here either. I'm not going to be giving out "atta-boys" and shiny medals for good behavior. If these things still mean something to you, it will be a while before you get up here.
So cut out that prayer, weeping, blessing and asking for assistance bit!
Stand up straight! Be strong! Be resourceful! Help others to help yourselves!
I have given you EVERYTHING.
Think about that for a minute - or in your particular cases, a few thousand years.
That's ALL you need from me.
And that's all you're getting.
Now quit whining and make the best of it!"
GOD!
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