The Left has used this fear to "mislead and bully" us into curtailing our economy, our freedoms, our national sovereignity, and our choices and lifestyles, while increasing their own power. And you've seen what happens to people who have said "enough" on the climate front.

That is a pile of garbage and you know it- this childish inclination you have to deflect a discussion by whining "but they did it too!" should be beneath you and its terribly transparent that you do it to avoid discussing the point in question..

We have violated our own laws, we have gone into war, we have sacrificed civil and human rights, and all along this administration has been pounding the drum to keep us going at their tempo... using the lash of "You are helping the terrorists" whenever someone has the gall to question the course we are on...

You KNOW that the violations we are currently engaging in will be looked upon as a dark stain on our nation... you know enough history to see that... yet you join in shrieking your support of these actions...

"A federal appeals court in Washington has invalidated the Bush administration's finding that a detainee held for more than six years in the Guantanamo Bay military prison in Cuba is an "enemy combatant," and has ordered the government to release him, transfer him or offer him a new hearing.

In a ruling decided Friday but released yesterday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled that Huzaifa Parhat, an ethnic Chinese Uighur captured during the early stages of the U.S. war in Afghanistan, was inappropriately designated an enemy combatant at a hearing before a Combatant Status Review Tribunal.

The case is the first successful appeal of a detainee's designation as an enemy combatant at Guantanamo. The review by the court was part of a process established by Congress in the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, which allows the appeal of tribunal decisions.

Parhat and 16 other Uighurs currently held at Guantanamo have long maintained their innocence. The Uighurs were accused of joining a Muslim separatist group in western China that the U.S. government has designated as a terrorist organization, though the group has not engaged in any conflict with the United States. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR2008062301619.html

There will be a reckoning for actions like these- you know it, I know it- we have put the soul of our nation in a blind trust managed by inept and corrupt people- they assured us it was all required to prevent us dying in a 'mushroom cloud'... we let them tarnish what this nation stands for because they told us it would make us secure, and if we didnt then we were helping the terrorists...

What we have done is terribly wrong, and you KNOW it was wrong! You keep supporting it so loudly NOT because you think it was right, but because you cant stand the possibility of admitting the left may have been in the right.

That is a piss poor position to hold, TB...