I'm not sure I'll agree with a "no preemptive war" amendment.

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ER — 7/8/2008 6:46:24 PM (archived)

I can conceive of situations where preemptive war might apply, perhaps even be essential.

Besides, even if we never do it again, the threat we might could still be very persuasive.

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Christopher Hitchens gets waterboarded - TB - 7/2/2008 6:03:02 PM
- Good for him - Tony - 7/2/2008 6:44:47 PM
  - But on another hand... - TB - 7/2/2008 11:47:21 PM
    - We considered it torture before... what changed? - ARRELL - 7/3/2008 12:14:03 AM
      - It's not torture...it's - z - 7/3/2008 4:09:39 AM
        
        Maybe you can answer the question I asked on another thread - TB - 7/3/2008 4:19:06 AM
      - Just making a point. - TB - 7/3/2008 3:31:58 AM
        
        Do we have principles or don't we? - Mary Anne - 7/3/2008 11:34:22 AM
        
        In the first gulf war how many lives were saved by the Iraqis surrendering in droves because they KNEW we would treat them humanely? - ARRELL - 7/3/2008 4:53:25 AM
        
        Assuming that's why they surrendered. - Lee - 7/3/2008 5:32:33 AM
        
        Our army certainly assumed so... - ARRELL - 7/3/2008 5:55:50 AM
        
        Lets assume for a moment that torture actually does save lives... - ARRELL - 7/3/2008 4:33:54 AM
        
        re: Lets assume for a moment that torture actually does save lives... - TB - 7/3/2008 4:51:07 AM
        
        See my post above - ARRELL - 7/3/2008 5:19:23 AM
        
        Actually, you've pretty much won this argument. - TB - 7/3/2008 8:09:32 PM
        
        BTW... - TB - 7/3/2008 8:11:58 PM
      - It's because our motives are pure, as pure as the driven slush! - Bowser - 7/3/2008 2:37:35 AM
        
        What might those motives be? (n/t) - RobVG - 7/3/2008 2:44:01 AM
        
        You jest, or course. - Bowser - 7/3/2008 3:39:40 AM
        
        Sorry, wasn't kidding. - RobVG - 7/3/2008 5:32:18 AM
        
        I'm not sure I'll agree with a "no preemptive war" amendment. - ER - 7/8/2008 6:46:24 PM

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