"Goldin's plan was to convert the shuttle into the NLS and put men on Mars by 2020, but under withering attack by both the Zubrinite Mars nuts and later the neocons, he was stopped."

Hmm, Zubrinite Mars nuts. I wonder... would you have been in favor of that? Put men on Mars by 2020, if only, but not (congratulations).

Would you have been in favor of ANY shuttle program, let alone an ISS program? You've let us known otherwise for years.

No, I'm not trying to re-write history. It is as it is.

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I am in favor of an International Space Station and I am in favor of a Mars program involving humans going to Mars and bringing back samples.

I know you're not in favor of that, or you've let us know that you are not for years for reasons I/or even we can't understand.

Too bad. I't's inevertable and the ISS would be the best test table for such as well as moon samples.