You don't know shit about mind control, never studied it and probably don't know even ONE doctor who has a patient or two that was a victim of some secret project. MKUltra has given millions of dollars to it's victims. So did victims in Canada win large lawsuits from an illegal CIA sponsored mind control project back in the 60s.

>"allowing your mind to move too far in directions like this is a lot more dangerous to your mental health than any mind-control weapon."

For you maybe, there's nothing wrong with me. I take it in small increments and know two psychiatrists who have followed the subject with victims as patients. For you and Frank to dismiss this as a paranoid conspiracy makes me realize just HOW MUCH you two close your minds off to real problems.

>"Don't you think that if such devices worked, the FIRST THING they would do is eliminate the idea from the culture? "

Whoever controls the projects, controls the release of the information....the CIA. Fer chrissakes, seven CIA directors are trying to stop the release of the torture memos...and that's just the tip of the iceburg. Look into Col. Michael Aquinos culpability in the Presidio Army Base Daycare scandal....find the legal documents, see what the outcome was. You're living in the Dark Ages.