"Nature is simply an extremist racist rag full of garbage! or so you would have us believe."

Nature is a perfect source, but their 'daily fact sheet' is not a deep study of any topic, does not make you an expert and does not give you anything more than a "for dummies" source.

"I've posted links to several mainstream sources and all you can say is that "they're lousy and no longer valid.""

No, just the one dinky-link you just vomited at me.

" It's kind of like the "It's all lies!" argument used by people (I've noticed you're one of them also) opposed to war with Iraq. "

Funny, The 'Its all lies' track seems to be taken by the blowhard idiots on the Right AND left. If you want to loop me in with the 'blood for oil' crowd, go right ahead. Even if you were correct in this ad hominem, which you are not, it wouldn't help you much in supporting your 60-years-out-of-date pseudo-science notions on the human race.

"because they'll simply dismise it as lousy, invalid, or whatever else they can think of. "

Ahh, I see, and depending upon the most recent science is, afterall, just politically motivated nonsense. I suppose that General Relativity should be endorsed or refuted based on a poll of good conservatives such as yourself?

Now, if you are anything more than an EP Grondine or a conspiracy buff, you will rise to my challenge and refute me factually on what I posted regarding Species, Subspecies, genetic discernability, geographic isolation and HSS populations both modern and neolithic. I am waiting, Lee.

Please, do continue this thread. I suppose that I should feel ashamed for making easy sport of a village idiot- but I just take such glee in it because you are a bigot. This is the sort-of fast-food of debate.

Davin L.