"Believing they had them is not the same as having posession of them. "

Okay, so then we went to war on the basis of belief?
Powell before the UN (exact words:) "We know this!"

So its morally justified to wage war on the basis of your beliefs? How does this differentiate us from the Islamists?

"It is obvious that circumstantial evidence is not enough for world opinion no matter how much. don't care a whole lot about that because they aren't and won't be responsible for American security "

I suggest to you that weapons that never existed and Terrorist ties that never existed are LESS of a threat to america, her personal freedoms and national security than wars predicated upon fabrications.

"and am glad we have leaders who are willing to act on their judgement of risk rather than that of the world's unededucated, educated but biased, and those with hidden agendas."

Now, which of those categories describes the Bush Administration, and which describes the various and sundry global dissenters

". Posession is required and even then no doubt people like you will claim physical evidence is faked. "

This is nuts. You are saying we have to invade a country to gain proof of the stated reasons for invasion.

Mark- this is nuts. This is the same thing as throwing the peasant girl in the river to see if she floats like a witch or drownds like a normal girl.

Davin L.