But first, you describe "Conservatives" in an understandable, flattering manner. Let's examine those. And right now, let me say that I was talking about Conservatives as exemplified by TB and Rush Limbaugh. They seem to carry the banner behind which the rest march.
I, too, believe everyone should support themselves. I believe the opportunity for a job with a living wage should be available for everyone who will fill it. I believe that citizens should have priority over illegal aliens who will work for nothing.
I too believe the family unit is absolutely crucial to the welfare of the people and the welfare of the country. Anything which contributes to the downfall of the family is detrimental to the community in general.
Our society, however, provides nothing to help heal a damaged family. There being no jobs, a poor man decides to deal drugs. He's ratted out, goes to jail under mandated terms, and now the head of the household is missing. A young mother tries to exert control, and gangs have more allure. The key is no jobs, The money with was touted to go into job creation when into speculating in hedge funds.
I don't know that liberals believe the family is the nation. This liberal believes, though, that the nation is a community, a group of people with common interests and common obligations. A group of people who owe something to each other, and that it's not the job, duty or privilege of the mega-wealthy to exploit the poor.
As far as my "hate", I pity the person who doesn't hate a political philosophy which deprives children of their needs in favor of enriching an already wealthy person. A person who doesn't hate someone with 50 million RTEs stashed away and won't feed a starving child.
You can say it's fiscal responsibility to let 'em starve. You can say we can't feed 'em all so we won't feed any of them. TB can glory in his childish beliefs about war, poverty, and government. And I'm going to hate the effects of that.
One last comment. About family values, fiscal responsibility and so on, compare Conservative statements with what Conservatives actually do. Preach God, talk to God, go start wars while lying their asses off about doing so. Preach Jesus, love Jesus, worship Jesus, and set up Abu Ghraib.
What is to not hate? What kind of a person wouldn't hate? And on the flip side, what kind of a person would be proud of that.
Over the top? Yes, in the sense that I passed up on polite to describe accurately what is going on. Yes in the sense that I punched through the polite veneers which allow normal discourse and expose the reality hiding back there.
Am I doing any good? Nope. I make people uncomfortable, reasonable people are uncomfortable around what they consider to be irrational emotions. I don't blame them. And yet there are some situations which cannot and should not be treated as if they are half-normal, some situations which are so outlandish that people should know they outrage others. And there should always be people to be outraged.
I want to be liked. I have craved that all my life. And somewhere along the line I learned that what I perceive as my integrity is worth more than being liked. When I am demonstrated to have been wrong, I will admit it. A matter of integrity. Those who can never admit to being wrong no matter how egregious the mistake lack a basic building block of a human being, integrity. Look at die-hard conservatives attitudes toward torture, GWB lying and so on and tell me there is something honorable about those people.
And then tell me one should not be afraid because they are loose upon the land, and then be angry about that.
My brush was too broad, my colors strayed past the lines. I did a great job coloring those at whom I was aiming, and yet there was "collateral damage". I wish there hadn't been, and yet Conservatives regard "collateral damage", even in the absense of primary damage, as quite acceptable.
Flame » in reply to You're over the top in your hatred. It's disproportionate to say the least.
You have a superb point, my brush was too broad.
The whole thread (23 posts)
- "Compassion that doesn’t cost someone a penny is what proxy “compassion” is."
- Re: "Compassion that doesn’t cost someone a penny is what proxy “compassion” is."
- Re: "Compassion that doesn’t cost someone a penny is what proxy “compassion” is."
- Now you're just being silly.
- I don't get excited very often, maybe 5 or 6 times a day.
- Read TBs post, and say I'm being silly. Read the post and tell me I've misinterpreted him!!!
- A "transfer of value" can mean giving of oneself.
- Bowser is either suppressing the point or honestly doesn't get it.
- Re: Bowser is either suppressing the point or honestly doesn't get it.
- The reason you have to be forced at gunpoint is because you would never share.
- Bowser is either suppressing the point or honestly doesn't get it.
- A "transfer of value" can mean giving of oneself.
