that you can disagree in a manner I can understand, you come up with this:

"It is more complicated than you want it to be.

"At least I expect you will do more than beg for your life or pick up the koran if they come to kill you. Some around here will just go quietly."

(I recall your saying that if there is an overwhelming force that the prudent thing to do is "kiss their ass".)

Now, how is it more complicated than that. GWB & Co. predicated the war on WMD. Later, after no WMD, they talked about freedom American style for the Iraqis. That doesn't seem to appeal to them.

And while all this is going on, brave, decent Americans are dying in a land without WMD, Halliburton is making heaps, stacks and piles of money.

All of which was predictable and predicted.

If you don't want to wind up in the ebnelson category, and that would really be a shame, I mean that. tell me what the comment about picking up a Koran or begging for my life when they come to kill me has to do with my post.

Arf (Ma Bowser - You dumb SOB, they're all puppies. Just puppies!! Don't expect anything else!!! You are one dumb SOB, Bow ol' boy! Followed with a playful 'nip' on my rear. Which hurt. Playful for her, not for me.)