The Third Antichrist
By
Fiona A. Bruin
tank_g_irl (4:27:30 AM): if sadam had waited until he had an atomic bomb before he invaded kuwait usa would have said its none of thier business
vladius28 (4:27:37 AM): yep
tank_g_irl (4:27:54 AM): i woud like to write an alternate history of the gulf war some day
vladius28 (4:28:02 AM): that would be cool
vladius28 (4:28:24 AM): i can tell you would be a good writer
tank_g_irl (4:28:33 AM): with a much more capable iraqui army armed with a handfull of tactical nuke weapons sweaping all the way down the arabian peninsula as far as yemen
vladius28 (4:28:56 AM): that would be good reading
tank_g_irl (4:29:30 AM): the iraqui army would then cross the desert armed with thousands of tanks and a million man army to take western arabia
vladius28 (4:29:53 AM): i dont think the world would stand by then
vladius28 (4:30:26 AM): and it would have problems with Israel
tank_g_irl (4:30:32 AM): iraq would be nuclear capable and usa would be trying to negotiate with saddam
vladius28 (4:31:00 AM): and thats such a vast territory... they would be spread thin
vladius28 (4:31:17 AM): holding that many borders would be next to impossible
tank_g_irl (4:31:24 AM): most of it is desrt saddam just needs to guard a few costal cities and rydah
vladius28 (4:32:29 AM): it would be a much harder fight, than you might think. Many of those countries wouldnt just stand by and be taken over. Many of which have very capable armies
tank_g_irl (4:32:30 AM): in a secret deal with jordan saddam negotiates the right for the iraqui army to cross jordanian territory and attack israel
vladius28 (4:32:57 AM): and you are forgeting about Iran... they would be looking for any chance to take iraq from behind
tank_g_irl (4:33:32 AM): lysander are you crazy i cant think of a single arab army that is worth shit, they buy the most expensive tanks and aircraft and give them to princes to play with, not caring about training
vladius28 (4:34:20 AM): you forget... in those arab countires... EVERY single citizen is a weapon
vladius28 (4:34:33 AM): man woman and child fights to the death
vladius28 (4:34:52 AM): bombs strapped to kids
vladius28 (4:35:04 AM): women with AK-47s
tank_g_irl (4:35:05 AM): well iran is already taken care of in my story in this war saddam had bombed theran to the barganing table and got a large section of oil rich iranian territory
vladius28 (4:35:16 AM): lol, okay
vladius28 (4:35:18 AM): that works
vladius28 (4:35:19 AM): hehe
tank_g_irl (4:35:40 AM): your forgetting how brutal saddam is
vladius28 (4:35:51 AM): yes.. he is definitely no saint
tank_g_irl (4:36:11 AM): and how even thoug he is a socialist he still is muslim and muslims dont really care which ruler they are under as long as its not an infidel
vladius28 (4:36:39 AM): true that too
tank_g_irl (4:36:50 AM): to your average muslim sees thier ruler as a shit no matter whom they are
vladius28 (4:36:55 AM): your story would make some excellent reading
tank_g_irl (4:37:41 AM): the republican guard start crossing in to jordanian territory as the sun sets by the sunrise they are a quater of the way to the israeli border
vladius28 (4:37:42 AM): what would the end be like? does Saddam finally lose in the end and kill himself in a bunker a-la Adolph? or he just rules with an iron fist the entire arab world?
vladius28 (4:37:49 AM): driven secretly by the US
tank_g_irl (4:37:57 AM): israel sends aircraft to try to beat them back
tank_g_irl (4:38:12 AM): inflicting huge but easily sustaniable losses on the iraquis
tank_g_irl (4:38:47 AM): by the third day the iraqui forfront is more then half way to the israeli border
tank_g_irl (4:39:50 AM): saddam knows he has to take israel to secure the rest of his conquests for when he does he will be loved by all of the arab world conquerd included
vladius28 (4:40:36 AM): The Gulf War according to Fiona
tank_g_irl (4:40:38 AM): he will be hailed as a great liberator not a socialist infidel
vladius28 (4:41:13 AM): you definitely have a good imagination
vladius28 (4:41:41 AM): with your backgroudn and knowlege of military.. you would have a best seller
tank_g_irl (4:41:59 AM): by hte fourth day iraqui tanks are only hours away from the israeli border and israel decides to use its handfull of tactical nukes to blow up the iraqui army units that are streaming towards its bordres
tank_g_irl (4:42:41 AM): and three more nukes threatening to attack the cities of basra falluja and baghdad
tank_g_irl (4:43:24 AM): they send the threat of city anhialation to saddam and he secretly is extactic about the news
tank_g_irl (4:43:51 AM): for he knows that the more the iraqui people suffer the more popular he will be with his new subjects
tank_g_irl (4:45:36 AM): the tactical nukes kill 130,000 iraqui troops in the vanguard but less then a thouand tanks for saddam borrowed an old trick from rommel and had an army of dummy tanks mixed in with the real ones
tank_g_irl (4:46:43 AM): thre are still 700,000 iraqui troops angrier then ever bearing down on israel and over 1000 tanks
tank_g_irl (4:47:40 AM): the tanks are inferior to the israeli merkevias but numbers overwhelm the israeli forces in only a month of fighting
tank_g_irl (4:48:02 AM): his army being swelled by recruits and volunteers from the new nations in his posession
vladius28 (4:48:40 AM): so how does it end?
tank_g_irl (4:49:10 AM): saddam then has controll of more then half of the worlds oil and millions of willing subjects.
tank_g_irl (4:50:41 AM): he his hailed as a new mhadi a gift from the prophet but now usa is enraged by the demise of israel and americas jewish controlled government wants revenge
tank_g_irl (4:51:42 AM): but they have no jumping off point they have no friendly country neighbouring the great new iraq that they can use as a jumping off point
vladius28 (4:51:54 AM): turkey
tank_g_irl (4:52:21 AM): turkey is far too scarred of a nuclear armed saddam
vladius28 (4:52:58 AM): youve thought this whole thing through before, many times, havnt you...
tank_g_irl (4:53:26 AM): every european nation is too scarred to offer usa a jump off
tank_g_irl (4:53:48 AM): usa is not a colonial power they make overtures to iran
tank_g_irl (4:54:10 AM): but iran still hates usa jsut as much as it hates saddam
tank_g_irl (4:54:46 AM): they make overtures to egypt and are spurned sadddam is a hero to many egyptians
tank_g_irl (4:55:50 AM): they make overtures to ethiopia but the ethiopians are shit scarred of nukes falling on addis abbaba for now saddam is rolling them off at a nuke a month
vladius28 (4:56:27 AM): keep going, youre turning me on
tank_g_irl (4:56:47 AM): the are spurrned in cyprus , syria both are either scarred of saddam or dont like yanks or both
tank_g_irl (4:57:16 AM): they are spurrned by debijuti whre saddam is as popular as he is in egypt
tank_g_irl (4:57:53 AM): they make an overture to somalia but the govt is collapsing in to anarchy that you saw so vividly in the movie black hawk down
tank_g_irl (4:58:22 AM): usa sees that here is a nation that they could bend to its whim because it is no nation
tank_g_irl (4:58:55 AM): it is a shit hole a primordial soup a collapsed house of a country
tank_g_irl (4:59:21 AM): with no real government there is no one to say no to the yanks
tank_g_irl (4:59:40 AM): the yanks realize that they have found thier beachhead
tank_g_irl (4:59:47 AM): thier jump off
tank_g_irl (5:00:12 AM): thier way to ply to the whims of the jewish lobby
vladius28 (5:00:13 AM): hey, fiona... i gotta jet.. i have to go pick up a friend at a bar.. they are too drunk to drive, and they want to
tank_g_irl (5:00:25 AM): your missing the story
tank_g_irl (5:00:57 AM): will you be back later?
vladius28 (5:01:14 AM): i know... but we'll chat again sometime... depends if i have to 'take care of them' she is pretty hammerd
tank_g_irl (5:01:38 AM): oh
vladius28 (5:01:51 AM): ill hold her hair while she pukes
vladius28 (5:01:52 AM): lol
tank_g_irl (5:01:56 AM): dont take advantage of her
vladius28 (5:02:01 AM): never ever
tank_g_irl (5:02:10 AM): do her doggy while she is bent over the bog
vladius28 (5:02:18 AM): you have a good day, and chat with you soon. LOL
tank_g_irl (5:02:21 AM): bye
vladius28 (5:02:22 AM): ill keep that in mind
vladius28 (5:02:23 AM): byebye
tank_g_irl (6:58:35 AM): back yet?
vladius28 (2:58:00 PM): just wanted to say hello
tank_g_irl (4:43:43 PM): well hello
vladius28 (4:43:59 PM): hello to you too
vladius28 (4:44:07 PM): did ya get some sleep?
tank_g_irl (4:44:09 PM): your up
tank_g_irl (4:44:12 PM): courses
tank_g_irl (4:44:31 PM): dont think ill have a workout today its wash day
vladius28 (4:44:45 PM): thats okay... im taking the day off too
tank_g_irl (4:45:03 PM): what would you like to talk about?
vladius28 (4:45:27 PM): hmmm
vladius28 (4:45:35 PM): sex?
vladius28 (4:45:36 PM): lol
vladius28 (4:45:52 PM): jk... im just on one of my moods... but how are you? did you just wake up?
tank_g_irl (4:46:37 PM): just came back from the library
vladius28 (4:47:00 PM): that one worked
tank_g_irl (4:47:02 PM): this is just to help you if you want me to continue the story
vladius28 (4:47:28 PM): cool
vladius28 (4:47:33 PM): where did we leave off?
tank_g_irl (4:47:41 PM): what do you remember?
vladius28 (4:48:26 PM): well, we left off, were the US was about to take over somalia as a jumpoff point
tank_g_irl (4:48:35 PM): ok
tank_g_irl (4:48:54 PM): well the war in israel had become a handfull of stalingrads for saddam
tank_g_irl (4:49:17 PM): people fighting street by street house by house department store by department store
tank_g_irl (4:49:36 PM): handfulls of resistance since the israeli army was not able to escape
tank_g_irl (4:50:19 PM): also almost all of the Israeli air force was intact and through arm twisting deplomacy now flying from airbases in cyprus
tank_g_irl (4:51:07 PM): in the day and night israeli cargos and transports would drop supplies down to the remaining israeli troops on the ground
tank_g_irl (4:51:28 PM): the situation so fluid that half the supplies were picked up by iraquis
tank_g_irl (4:52:04 PM): some people even volunteered to parachute down in to israeli controlled areas to keep fighting
tank_g_irl (4:52:14 PM): a suicida mission if ever there was one
tank_g_irl (4:52:36 PM): for since the israeli nuking of cities in iraq the arabs were taking no prisoners
vladius28 (4:52:51 PM): have you noticed how the US now has IRAN surrounded from 3 sides?
tank_g_irl (4:53:25 PM): and the fact that they were taking no prisoners made the israelis fight all the harder
tank_g_irl (4:53:34 PM): well if you look at the map its just two sides
tank_g_irl (4:53:57 PM): the top is turkeminstan armenia and azerbijhan
vladius28 (4:53:59 PM): turkey afganistan, and now iraq
tank_g_irl (4:54:14 PM): and they were now an arab army
tank_g_irl (4:55:00 PM): for the armys that only a couple of months earlier had been dicimated by saddams invasion of the arabian peninsula were egar to join the fight with iraqui leadership
tank_g_irl (4:55:23 PM): egypt joined syria joined jordan joined
tank_g_irl (4:55:46 PM): although only token the importance of a token is not to be trifeld with
tank_g_irl (4:56:08 PM): and saddam was exporting oil again to the far east and to europe
tank_g_irl (4:57:04 PM): an israeli type 504 submarine sunk an oil tanker carrying iraqui oil off the coast of italy
tank_g_irl (4:57:44 PM): this pushes the europeans further away for israel has forgotten how much the europeans love thier environment
tank_g_irl (4:58:33 PM): but the war drags on for months with the thousands of isareli troops fighting toth and nail and having effective air support from the best trained airmen in the world
tank_g_irl (4:59:03 PM): saddam is growing tired of losing his airmen to israeli fighters over what was once israel
tank_g_irl (4:59:48 PM): he threatens crete that he will nuke the airfields that israel is using over there
tank_g_irl (5:00:19 PM): it only takes a few hours and the army of crete disable all the israeli aircraft
tank_g_irl (5:00:35 PM): in the united states another war is being fought
tank_g_irl (5:01:05 PM): for the two great giants of political lobbying are on different sides of the conflict
tank_g_irl (5:01:46 PM): the jewish lobby is frantic to the point of insanity trying to get america to commit its battlegroups to attacking the arab armies
tank_g_irl (5:02:29 PM): but the more powerful and more well connected oil lobby would like to make deals not war
tank_g_irl (5:03:19 PM): the price of oil in usa has quadropled as usa placed sanctions on iraq and all its occupied terrotries
tank_g_irl (5:04:26 PM): but saddam says he has no problem in restarting supply and like a man dangling a hundred euro bill in front of a ten euro hooker he makes the oil lobby in usa salivate
tank_g_irl (5:05:11 PM): the jewish lobby is offering any politician millions to support us intervention in israel
vladius28 (5:06:14 PM): so when are you going to write this book!??
tank_g_irl (5:06:18 PM): usa not only remembers the viet nam war but is dishartened by the civilian casualties in iraqui cities women and children burnt beyond recognition so that you dont even know if they were women or children and not short men and monkies
tank_g_irl (5:07:22 PM): bush knows he needs to restore the flow of oil somehow or he will not be reelected and since he is from an oil family he leans towards peace with iraq
tank_g_irl (5:08:05 PM): us troops are in somalia now under the guise of peace keepers but they might never go anywher
tank_g_irl (5:08:40 PM): in washington a famous oil lobbyist is assinated, no one knows by whom but you could gess
tank_g_irl (5:09:08 PM): still bush does not flinch but continues to try to placate both sides
tank_g_irl (5:09:35 PM): with 3 carrier battlegroups in the medeterranian and another 4 carrier battlegroups in the indian ocean
tank_g_irl (5:10:00 PM): but bush knows that just one nuke could wipe out an entire carrier battle group and saddam has about 24 of them now
tank_g_irl (5:10:34 PM): and back in 1992 the shadow of viet nam was still vivid
tank_g_irl (5:11:10 PM): bush also knows that he would have to go it alone for not even iran would be is ally against a nuclear saddam
tank_g_irl (5:12:20 PM): and the europeans mourning the loss of hundreds of seagulls of the coast of italy and the crisp fried civilians in iraq are not interested in joining the coalition
tank_g_irl (5:14:23 PM): in the fall of 1992 the last resistance in the many stalingrads in israel dry up and saddam claims victory. saddam is now cocky and overconfident and would like to push on. he wants to unite the whole of the middle east. however he is aslo much weekened by the war and is only slowly rearming
tank_g_irl (5:14:43 PM): bushes generals say now is the only time usa might be able to attack
tank_g_irl (5:15:37 PM): the arabian peninsula contains about 60% of the worlds oil reserves to have the under iraq is unnaceptable strategic risk say bushes generals
tank_g_irl (5:16:16 PM): these generals have been secretly waiting for a fight all thier lives and also secretly mourn the death of the ussr there most favoured sparring partner
tank_g_irl (5:17:02 PM): but for now bush decides to open peace negotiations in return for the safe treatment of the israeli jews still left in the area of palestine
tank_g_irl (5:17:13 PM): and the troops are pulled out of somalia
tank_g_irl (5:18:20 PM): saddam consolidates and builds up his army to two be second only to chinas in size and spends billions on buying armaments from china and the former USSR
tank_g_irl (5:18:48 PM): some estimates suggest that 3 percent of the russian economy is based on arms sales to the new republic of arabia
tank_g_irl (5:19:11 PM): saddam uses the decimation of baghdad to move his capital to rydah
tank_g_irl (5:20:20 PM): in the space of the next 8 years he rearms and rebuilds his army , some attempts are made to set up local manfuacture of armaments but none are successfull
tank_g_irl (5:20:53 PM): it is so much easier just to buy buy buy and that is what he does
tank_g_irl (5:21:47 PM): saddam reads books about hitler and stalin and tries to liberate women and teach his population but he knows his work wont show any results for decades
tank_g_irl (5:23:18 PM): by the year 1999 saddam has an army of mechanized army of 3000 tanks and a well trained air force that is the fourth largest in the world, saddam also has more then a hundred nuclear weapons including about a dozen hydrogen bombs
tank_g_irl (5:24:22 PM): saddam even starts to recruit women in to the army but still he is reliant on foreign imports of armaments from europe russia and china
tank_g_irl (5:25:18 PM): like two gays in a cock sucking 69 saddam depends on foregin armaments as the world is dependant on saddams oil
tank_g_irl (5:25:41 PM): saddam is greedy and thirsts for the glory of earlier conflicts
tank_g_irl (5:26:47 PM): saddam has also built up an impressive navy of bought ships from british, french, german, russian shipyards
tank_g_irl (5:27:17 PM): saddam is a dreamer he dreams of one day ruling the whole of the middle east
tank_g_irl (5:27:58 PM): in 1997 he used a fictitious border dispute to invade syria and only sufferd a few hundred casualties
tank_g_irl (5:28:03 PM): no one came to syrias aid
tank_g_irl (5:28:11 PM): no sanctions were placed on iraq
tank_g_irl (5:28:14 PM): nothing happened
tank_g_irl (5:28:59 PM): former russian communists cry over the fact that mother russia never had breast that the res of the world need to suckle for oil as saddam does
tank_g_irl (5:29:57 PM): the rest of the world think that if they placate saddam with buyin his oil they will be safe
tank_g_irl (5:31:31 PM): keep the tyrant happy
tank_g_irl (5:31:33 PM): sell him arms
tank_g_irl (5:31:35 PM): buy his oil
tank_g_irl (5:31:48 PM): help build his half harted failures of factories
tank_g_irl (5:32:14 PM): you got the new map?
vladius28 (5:32:19 PM): yep
tank_g_irl (5:32:26 PM): this will help me with the rest of the story
vladius28 (5:32:43 PM): kk
tank_g_irl (5:33:17 PM): in the year of 2000 saddam sends "peace keepers" in to somalia which is mostly peaceful anyway but saddam sees easy pickings
tank_g_irl (5:34:27 PM): the crossing of the gulf of aden and landing on the northern coast of somalia is almost effortless and saddams troops are only a month later on the kenyan border
tank_g_irl (5:34:58 PM): but somalia is different ini that it is fluid and uncontrollable
tank_g_irl (5:36:18 PM): saddam needs a hundred thousand troops in somalia just to keep order and with little experience in counter insurgency saddams troops kill quite a few of thier own in the confusion
tank_g_irl (5:37:02 PM): saddams troops help eretrea gain indipendence from ethiopia but never leave and eretrea is made in to another provence of arabia
tank_g_irl (5:38:05 PM): saddam tries a half harted attempt at an arab mein kamph that is badly written and contradictory but is printed by the millions
tank_g_irl (5:38:36 PM): using this excuse of a book he sends troops in to jordan and lebanon
tank_g_irl (5:39:22 PM): saddam next sets his sights on sudan
tank_g_irl (5:40:35 PM): a civi war is being fought there that gives him the excuse to send in troops to "aid the arab cause" again the troops never leave and fight the cristian sout just as much as the muslim north but saddam always inept at propaganda just needs to justify it to himself
vladius28 (5:40:40 PM): vi thought jordan was on his side, anyway.. he crossed it to get to israel
tank_g_irl (5:40:56 PM): saddam now has a firm foothold in africa
tank_g_irl (5:42:05 PM): egypt signs a treaty with usa that it will give adminstration of the suez canal to american companies in return for american troops being stationed in egypt
tank_g_irl (5:42:52 PM): saddam is now overconfident and thinks he is unbetable and his generals try to urge caution
tank_g_irl (5:43:54 PM): saddam is looking for any excuse to invade egypt and sees the stationing of american troops on egyptian soil as just what he was looking for
tank_g_irl (5:44:38 PM): while american troops are just digging in to the canal zone a three pronged attack is made towards egypt
tank_g_irl (5:45:10 PM): from sudan in the south comes the main charge with another amphibious landing on the red sea coast of egypt
tank_g_irl (5:45:47 PM): and a mostly token and diversional attack on the sinai peninsula
tank_g_irl (5:47:02 PM): some greet the arabian troops with open arms even as liberators from western democracy but his welcome is not nearly as warm as it has been in other countries
tank_g_irl (5:47:51 PM): fierce battles in egypt last for several months as saddams troops wort northr towards cairo
tank_g_irl (5:48:37 PM): but egypt has been spending hugely on defense since the end of the gulf war in 1993 and is able to stop saddams army at the outskirts of cairo
tank_g_irl (5:49:31 PM): saddam did not anticipate such hard resistance but keeps trying to push on sending more and more troops accroos the red sea to increase the pressureo on the defenders of cairo
tank_g_irl (5:50:23 PM): eventually saddam decides to make his diveronal attack on aden a real one and smashes through us troops guarding the canal
tank_g_irl (5:50:26 PM): you still there?
vladius28 (5:50:51 PM): yep yep!
tank_g_irl (5:50:58 PM): ok your aweflu quiet
vladius28 (5:51:28 PM): reading your story, ... you must have spent so much time thinking about this
tank_g_irl (5:51:40 PM): honestly im just making it up as i go along
vladius28 (5:52:09 PM): lol, really?... thats even better... you have alot of detal... when are you going to write it?
tank_g_irl (5:52:16 PM): who knows
tank_g_irl (5:52:45 PM): anyway the aden attack means crossing the canal which is defended by us troops
tank_g_irl (5:53:26 PM): the american troops if they had wanted peace should have meltd away but instead they put up the well trained fight that they were ment for
tank_g_irl (5:54:09 PM): in a week however before anyone could do anything 2000 ameircan trops are dead and another 7000 wounded or captured
tank_g_irl (5:55:01 PM): saddam continues his aromoured thrust to alexandria and cairo surrenders with the government going in to exile in athens
tank_g_irl (5:55:58 PM): but usa now is cought up the desire for war
tank_g_irl (5:56:21 PM): what can usa do against a nuclear power
tank_g_irl (5:57:21 PM): the president of the united states hopes that high demands of apologies and reperations might placate american opinions on wera
tank_g_irl (5:57:28 PM): war*
tank_g_irl (5:57:54 PM): saddams army mean while continues right past alexandria and in to libya
tank_g_irl (5:58:08 PM): not even bothering to make up an excuse for war
tank_g_irl (5:58:32 PM): the tanks rolling along blitzkreig style in to tunisia and algeria
tank_g_irl (5:59:26 PM): france supprizes the world by sending in troops to help the algerian army and sadam is stopped in his tracks
tank_g_irl (6:00:25 PM): sadddam has got too cocky over the years and uses a skud to decimate most of what was a french naval task force off the coast of algeria
tank_g_irl (6:01:15 PM): france then replies by using tactical sattelite guided nukes to whipe out most of the iraqui army
vladius28 (6:01:47 PM): wow
tank_g_irl (6:01:52 PM): saddam has not invested over the years in an icbm program and only can fire a nuke about a thousand miles
tank_g_irl (6:02:29 PM): french troops are joined by the rest of nato and start to fight saddam back along north africa
tank_g_irl (6:02:49 PM): landing troops on the syrian coast and coming north from turkey in to iraq
tank_g_irl (6:03:32 PM): saddam loses about half his nuclear weapons to special forces who with good intelligence know where too look for them
tank_g_irl (6:04:46 PM): soon massive formations of nato tanks are rolling accross teh saharan desert in a massive bloodbath that involves the frying of humans by more tactical nukes
tank_g_irl (6:05:41 PM): saddam triest to bomb turkey with an atom bomb on istanbul but the aircraft is shot down over the medteerranian
tank_g_irl (6:06:23 PM): with only about a dozen nukes left he continues to fight but is pushed back again and agian through libya in to egypt
tank_g_irl (6:08:17 PM): nato troops also go through iraq and streight towards his new capiatl rydah dodging his final few nukes saddam is finally assinated by his chief general who surrenders as the nato armies take rydah
tank_g_irl (6:08:40 PM): and thats the end of the story
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- Want some alternate history? I'll give you some alternate history.
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- The cumulative weight of all the lies is impressive, oppressive and depressing. (A rant.)
