"Well, now that you've reframed the issue, you're right. However, in the framing he provided, it was reasonably similar in terms of its degree to lunacy. I think you might agree to that. If one is going to demand people treat their arguments fairly and accurately, one ought to at least return the courtesy"

Hello!
Say what?
Me reframe the issue? RL, suffering from altitude sickness, 'framed' the issue incorrectly. That was NOT my position that he stated and then drew his ridiculous analogy. I am not the one here seting up a false strawman of someone's position and then criticizing it. You're completely out of line asking me, whose position was misrepresented, to treat some disengenuous arguement fairly. Before you get on your high horse and pontificate away, lecturing others, try geting the facts straight. If you're able.