"The facts are simple..."

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"The facts are simple..."

Tom Brosz — 8/20/2004 5:52:17 AM (archived)

John Kerry served his nation in the field of battle, George Bush didn't.

This is as relevant as saying "Richard Nixon was elected President for two terms" when discussing Watergate. And you might want to rephrase that a bit, unless it's your contention that Guardsmen or military personnel who don't see combat aren't really serving the nation. Larry, Tony, and others are going over that elsewhere. ;)

God, where were all you medal freaks when Dole was running against a draft-dodger?

Nobody is saying Kerry wasn't in Vietnam, or that he never served under combat. The issue is whether or not he's lying about details, and there are a LOT of problems there. Whatever you might say about Bush's service, he didn't say he was flying to places he never went.

This is a character issue, and since Kerry has put all his character eggs in the Vietnam basket, this is where it's being focused. Frankly, there are a lot more recent things that speak to this.

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Now we know what it takes to get media coverage of the Swift Boat controversy - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 2:51:56 PM
- The media attack on the veterans is moving into full swing. - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2004 2:21:53 AM
  - Prediction failed - Tony - 8/20/2004 1:37:37 PM
    - "...he did not address some of the accusations" Yep. You win that one. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2004 4:44:58 PM
  - This explains why Kerry was willing to throw his medals away. - Lee - 8/20/2004 5:49:22 AM
  - It will likely fail. - ebnelson - 8/20/2004 2:55:35 AM
  - The smear of Kerry doesn't bother you? - Bowser - 8/20/2004 2:46:18 AM
    - re: the smear of Bush doesn't bother you? - Scott Evil - 8/20/2004 1:24:43 PM
    - I see you're ducking the actual situation. - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2004 5:45:40 AM
      - Per nightline...the Democrats have raised well over $100 Million for anti-Bush/pro-Kerry 527 Organizations; Republicans have raised less than $15 Million - Scott Evil - 8/20/2004 2:20:38 PM
    - The hypocrisy of the American right - Donald - 8/20/2004 3:59:51 AM
      - re: Yes the facts are facts. Kerry Lied about the facts. - Scott Evil - 8/20/2004 1:30:43 PM
      - "The facts are simple..." - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2004 5:52:17 AM
        
        Indeed they are - Donald - 8/20/2004 1:17:23 PM
        
        The problem is, a lot of the stories of valor aren't matching up. - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2004 5:47:23 PM
- Because... - Donald - 8/20/2004 12:57:17 AM
- Kerry even lies about who was President when he was in Vietnam. - ebnelson - 8/19/2004 11:45:42 PM
  - No, its just that you cant read proper like (n/t) - tony - 8/20/2004 1:02:16 AM
    - Kerry's own story says it all. If you like the re-edited versions, have 'em. (n/t) - ebnelson - 8/20/2004 2:06:15 AM
      - Got Link? (n/t) - Tony - 8/20/2004 12:36:02 PM
        
        Link. - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2004 6:01:53 PM
        
        Oh, I see. So it IS Reading Comprehension 101 - Tony - 8/20/2004 6:53:45 PM
        
        re: Seared...Seared in my memory. - Scott Evil - 8/20/2004 7:20:55 PM
        
        It's not important. - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2004 9:00:21 PM
- so where were you looking at the beginning of the month - Tony - 8/19/2004 7:22:38 PM
  - BTW, the original Swift Boats press conference was in May - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 7:42:33 PM
  - Exercise for the student: - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 7:41:20 PM
    - re: Exercise for the "teacher": - Tony - 8/19/2004 8:36:08 PM
      - Considering the original premise is press bias against Bush... - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 9:46:26 PM
- Update: Kerry's response ad getting massive media coverage. Big surprise. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 7:03:33 PM
- This is plain silly. - Bowser - 8/19/2004 4:56:54 PM
  - Kerry should open his military records or resign as the Democratic candidate. - Scott Evil - 8/19/2004 7:07:39 PM
    - W. Bush propped up at bar during war sevice? - E.P. Grondine - 8/19/2004 11:04:12 PM
    - Not as bad as you portray - Larry J - 8/19/2004 9:00:04 PM
    - Kerry's record has holes, but not as many as you list. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 7:12:12 PM
  - character has a way of displaying itself provided sufficient time is allotted for the viewing, and November is still a long ways off. - FrankC - 8/19/2004 5:53:39 PM
    - Do you know who I am? - p - 8/19/2004 6:37:48 PM
  - The issue of the post is the blatant bias in media coverage - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 5:20:13 PM
- I don't think this will go away to easily for Kerry - Scott Evil - 8/19/2004 4:45:12 PM
  - According to Nader, Kerry group is a bunch of bullies - REB - 8/19/2004 5:17:29 PM
    - I could run several threads on the Democratic "search and destroy" on Nader. - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 5:28:42 PM

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