Israel kept territory taken after a full-scale war of extermination against them. One of no less than three such wars. Wars that seem to have been conveniently written out of Middle Eastern history when this subject is discussed.
Israel gave back the Sinai. Now, tally up the acreage of Gaza, the Golan Heights, and the West Bank some time when discussing "expansion."
Jordan owned the West Bank for years. Where was "Palestine" then? A state could have been created with the stroke of a pen. But then, we know how Arabs really feel about Palestinians when they live next door.
It is accepted by everyone discussing Middle East peace that the Palestinians should be able to expel every last Jew from any state they create. Nobody objects to this.
Look at a map and see how much of the Middle East Israel occupies.
It's also educational to look at a map of what the borders of Israel would be today if the Arabs who vowed to eliminate it has simply left the U.N. borders alone.
Any map you see of Palestine in the Palestinian territories includes every last bit of Israel.
The Jews in Israel that oppose settlements aren't blowing anyone up.
I'm sorry, but the "Zionism" not "anti-Semitism" bit doesn't stand up. Both for these, and the reasons I gave earlier.
Flame » in reply to Zionism is a political philosophy that can be traced to mid-19th century Europe.
"Expansionism?" Give me a break.
The whole thread (29 posts)
- "The Disenchanted American"
- re: If the US did not exist
- Again, the astounding memory hole...
- re: If the US did not exist
- Wow I Didn't Realize You Were Anti-Semetic
- I don't see the antisemitisim in Raoul's post.
- re: Wow, I didn't realize you hated me that much
- Anti-Zionist
- re: If the US did not exist