"Collateral damage? Unlucky?

How would you like to be so unlucky?

Without justice, we are just the biggest thugs on the block. "

War isn't pretty, that why we generally try to avoid war.

For instance, I don't like being ordered out of my car, told to lie down on the ground, and have cops pointing their guns at me. But I realize that it isn't the cops causing this, it's some criminal's actions that the cops are trying their best to respond to. If I thought they were doing because they simply wanted some kind of weird entertainment; I would have different take on the situation.

We are certainly responsible "at some level" for Saddam Hussein running Iraq. We did things like recognize that he is the leader of that country. We have a international legal system that creates these things called countries. We [meaning mostly France, China, and Russia] sold him weapons, that he couldn't economical make as the ruler of that region. We give him relatively a huge amount of power by buying oil- but it wouldn't need to be oil; it could gold, drugs, iron, lumber, whatever; but oil just happens to be relatively low cost in terms of labor- and certainly involves technology to mine it and to be consumer of it. If it wasn't for America with it's demoracy, science, free press, and technology (which are all interrelated and dependent upon each) Saddam Hussein would have, first, never become the ruler of that region, and second, he would ruled a region that's export was mostly figs on camel backs or slow moving boat. And finally Iraq would not be of any interest in terms of America's national security.
The simple point is our democracy in America is resulting in our being interconnected with all human living on this planet. If you want to live in isolationism, you will need to get rid of the root cause: democracy, and all the stuff that goes with it: advancing technology, free press, etc. But if you want a peaceful world, I know of only one route: democracy.

Anyways, the point is that Bush Sr, Clinton, and/or George W Bush, did not start this war. Saddam Hussein started this war, George W did what was neccessary to end this war. And instead of going to route of handing the govt back to whoever seemed the strongest political entity and then hope that they would manage to create a viable state [instead fracturing into civil war- which the Kurds would have "reasonably" done.]. Bush's international responsible course was of taking steps to establish a democracy in Iraq which can interact and prosper in the modern world.