And some very credible people make a super case for those elections having been rigged.

However, ya pretty well gotta admit the True Believers resort to ad hominem attacks rather than deal with issues, and accuse others of what they do themselves.

An example is the Bushies accusing Kerry of cowardice when their guy was AWOL.

<a href="http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/1970/A Corrupted Election
Despite what you may have heard, the exit polls were right

Evidence Mounts That The Vote May Have Been Hacked

Prominent Statisticians Refute 'Explanation'" of 2004 U.S. Exit Poll Discrepancies in New Edison/Mitofsky Report and Urge Investigation of U.S. Presidential Election Results
HAve Been Hacked

According to analysis by the group of senior statisticians, the new data just released by the exit-pollsters shows that the possibility that the overall vote count was substantially corrupted must be taken seriously. “Now we have statistical evidence that these reports were the tip of a national iceberg. The hypothesis that the discrepancy between the exit polls and election results is due to errors in the official election tally is a coherent theory that must be explored,” said statistician Josh Mitteldorf.

Their paper titled "Response to Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 Report" notes that the Edison/Mitofsky report offers no evidence to support their conclusion that Kerry voters “participated in the exit polls at a higher rate than Bush voters”. In fact, the data provided in the Edison/Mitofsky report suggests that the opposite may have been true: Bush strongholds had slightly higher response rates than Kerry strongholds.

Arf (doesn't even embarrass them, does it Bow. Nope. They aren't capable of that.)