Going round or Flag and footprints

Raoul — 7/23/2005 12:00:41 AM (archived)

It seems many oppose going round in orbit as it's been done for years.
But that was the purpose of the shuttle: to achieve easy access to space.
Instead, it killed twice and never became cost effective.

The Apollo program succeeded and stopped because it wasn't attracting the public anymore.

So, here we are, with pro-space fans not wanting to go around the world anymore and pro-space fans not wanting flag and footprints anymore.
The point also is: who can pretend a beter kind of manned shuttle won't be as expensive to develope and dangerous to use and who can pretend going to Mars won't be flag and footprints either?

Maybe what we'll end up with are rich tourists in ballistic flights and all the rest of space left to robots.
That is the natural trend of space exploration. Sustained politics could change this but everyone must agree on and support a more ambitious role for humans.

Raoul

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Going round or Flag and footprints - Raoul - 7/23/2005 12:00:41 AM
- This issue has been basically decided (for now) - Buck Galaxy - 7/23/2005 10:44:39 PM
  - I more-or-less agree with Buck Galaxy however ..... - Gary - 7/25/2005 4:28:53 PM
  - Influence - Raoul - 7/23/2005 11:12:03 PM
- re: Going round or Flag and footprints - Who? - 7/23/2005 5:20:06 AM
- Why assume it's either or? (n/t) - Peter Bruener - 7/23/2005 5:09:18 AM
  - re: I'm trying to find a justification for HLVs and manned flights (n/t) - Raoul - 7/23/2005 8:49:34 AM
    - HLLVs will allow the type of manned spaceflight we all dream about to happen. - Lee - 7/23/2005 9:18:43 AM
- Having both would be better. - Lee - 7/23/2005 3:20:27 AM
- Key word: SUSTAINABLE - Gary - 7/23/2005 3:12:15 AM
  - re: Key word: SUSTAINABLE - Chris Vancil - 7/23/2005 4:02:46 AM
    - Let's work the problem - Gary - 7/23/2005 5:27:16 AM
      - Gary and Chris, fascinating discussion, thanks for your insights (n/t) - McFly - 7/23/2005 8:54:34 PM
      - The Antartic will be developed in this century, not Mars - E.P. Grondine - 7/23/2005 3:12:56 PM
      - re: Let's work the problem - Chris Vancil - 7/23/2005 7:55:53 AM
        
        re: Let's work the problem - Gary - 7/23/2005 8:36:43 PM
        
        Water and rock - Nick Hoffman - 7/25/2005 2:03:57 AM
        
        Nick is quite correct - Gary - 7/25/2005 4:44:45 PM
        
        re: Nick is quite correct - gbaikie - 7/25/2005 8:36:43 PM
        
        Irrelevant, as the public has no intention of paying for your Mars fantasies - E.P. Grondine - 7/24/2005 12:40:29 AM
      - Good ideas - Adam - 7/23/2005 5:36:23 AM
- re: Going round or Flag and footprints - Chris Vancil - 7/23/2005 1:58:32 AM
  - Once again, it's not flags and footprints, it's CAPS (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 7/23/2005 2:46:12 AM
    - re: Once again...That you would very much like to stifle debate and have us all believe your delusions is clear already. - Chris Vancil - 7/23/2005 3:44:37 AM

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