Carl went on MPF
You're making a storm out of a non issue - google for it. You'll also find a thousand and one cartoons mentioning it. Seems like you're just trying to find something to have an argument about when there's none to be had.
And frankly - it would be in dramatically bad taste to go and 'get' a piece of Carl from his family to launch with Phoenix.
Such issues imho should never ever be a public matter, but a matter between a family, and a PI. It's too sensitive and private imho.
Doug