Thank you... I was debating what to do when I saw how off topic this was getting
I think that, for once, this debate on theology has been surprisingly civil. I think it would be interesting if it could continue- just not here. If you two would like, I could cut and paste the theological thread into OT.
Whatever you decide this discussion should not continue here- what has been written I will let stay... any further posts on the topic I will move to OT.
(BTW I DO appreciate that you recognized that it belonged on OT)