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You have a point...

ER — 7/31/2006 3:47:54 PM (archived)

but I think Tom does too. The "artistic" community prefers not to portray the bourgeosie in a heroic light because they tend to feel uncomfortable with and alienated from the whole entrepreneurial ethic. But the "artistic" community also has the same suspicion and antagonism to the scientific view of the world, and as I have posted before, tends to portray it as either cold and indifferent to human values or even hostile to them. Even when scientists are treated sympathetically, they are usually portrayed as bumbling and clumsy outside their own fields.

Where I disagree with Tom is that I don't feel this is necessarily a conscious political program, or an ideological point of view. It's more like a CP Snow "two cultures" kind of conflict. Arists are notoriously bad at handling money, and they can't do the math.

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Competing economic models - Daniel - 7/28/2006 2:17:30 PM
- re: Competing economic models - ER - 7/29/2006 12:20:41 AM
  - A brief digression - ER - 7/29/2006 3:23:42 PM
    - re: A brief digression - Mark S. Nihil - 7/30/2006 5:24:01 AM
      - re: A brief digression - Daniel - 7/30/2006 5:46:44 AM
        
        Yesterday's leftist was a fool! - Mark S. Nihil - 7/30/2006 6:21:03 AM
        
        just one question - Daniel - 7/30/2006 6:57:09 AM
        
        There'll be no need. - Mark S. Nihil - 7/30/2006 7:08:45 AM
        
        I fully agree - President Charles Logan - 7/30/2006 7:24:04 AM
    - Viaje a las Estrellas: La Ira de Khan - ER - 7/29/2006 6:57:43 PM
      - "Running a business is a skill, not a virtue." - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2006 8:38:17 PM
        
        re: "Running a business is a skill, not a virtue." - ER - 7/29/2006 8:51:12 PM
        
        Yes, I do. Excellent example. - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2006 10:49:17 PM
        
        re: Yes, I do. Excellent example. - ER - 7/30/2006 12:01:33 AM
        
        re: Excellent example. - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 2:42:07 AM
        
        Senor Eastwood, meet Carter J. Burke - ER - 7/30/2006 3:39:23 AM
        
        I thought of two examples of a heroic businessman in films. How many can you come up with? - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 6:07:32 AM
        
        You're right, I can't come up with too many... - ER - 7/30/2006 1:22:40 PM
        
        re: You're right, I can't come up with too many... - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 8:46:51 PM
        
        white-collar heroism is difficult to portray because it is inherently boring (n/t) - alcaray - 7/31/2006 3:31:23 PM
        
        You have a point... - ER - 7/31/2006 3:47:54 PM
        
        A clarification... - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 7:04:58 PM
        
        Understood - ER - 7/31/2006 7:44:47 PM
        
        "No sillier", perhaps; but I would hope more convincing. (n/t) - ER - 7/30/2006 8:59:04 PM
        
        "right winger writing bad left wing agitprop" is correct - Tony - 7/30/2006 3:43:36 PM
        
        He gives himself away... - ER - 7/30/2006 7:06:39 PM
        
        I suspect no-one. - tony - 7/30/2006 7:58:26 PM
        
        I prefer not to speculate... (n/t) - ER - 7/30/2006 8:45:43 PM
        
        I resent that! - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/30/2006 8:43:52 PM
        
        All businessman are depicted as heros. - Mark S. Nihil - 7/30/2006 6:59:27 AM
        
        BTW, Kirk in Spanish was a hoot... - ER - 7/30/2006 12:09:19 AM
    - only God is free of constraints (if you believe) - Daniel - 7/29/2006 5:55:29 PM
    - Okay, I read that one through twice. - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2006 5:14:50 PM
  - I was trying to remember that one - Robert - 7/29/2006 1:07:23 AM
    - Ya think? - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2006 6:57:03 AM
    - Coercion has an exact meaning. - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2006 6:49:05 AM
      - the only principle being pushed here is A MINIMUM LIVING WAGE - Daniel - 7/29/2006 11:07:28 AM
        
        "Living wage" - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2006 5:11:20 PM
        
        ok, you tell me then - Daniel - 7/29/2006 5:49:21 PM
        
        Obviously, minimum wage is a "livable" wage. - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2006 10:46:50 PM
        
        "Quite well on $5.15/hour" - dtb - 7/30/2006 2:49:58 PM
        
        I did say "as a student." - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 9:14:24 PM
        
        Students and minimum wage - dtb - 7/31/2006 1:03:30 AM
        
        thanks for that - Daniel - 7/31/2006 10:29:05 AM
        
        re: thanks - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 11:05:34 PM
        
        re: thanks - Daniel - 8/1/2006 1:25:44 AM
        
        Odd jobs - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2006 2:23:07 AM
        
        re: Odd jobs - Daniel - 8/1/2006 3:30:35 AM
        
        SSTO...I wish. - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2006 6:20:15 AM
        
        just to make clear - Daniel - 7/29/2006 6:12:00 PM

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