I really haven't seen the people on here claiming evil and grand conspiracies by Bush. Most of the bashing has been in the form of pointing out the man's lack of compassion for humans not of his ilk, his gross incompetence in complicated matters, and his apparent low intelligence or at least the inability to see things in more than black and white. There's plenty of evidence that's been cited in all those categories and I'm not going to repeat them now.

A few have gone into the conspiracy area but it's my recollection they've gotten as much flack back from the left as from the right.

I think very few of us believe that Bush and his bunch orchestrated 9/11. That's one of those grand conspiracies that would require too many people to keep their mouths shut. However, it's not beyond comprehension to believe that small groups knew it was coming or possible and put up subtle roadblocks that slowed investigations since they knew a national crisis would further their well-stated plans to control the Mideast.

It's also pretty consistent among your opposition to believe that Bush took an unethical advantage of the fear amongst Americans to put us into an unnecessary war in Iraq. The evidence of a conspiracy (if you want to call it that) is huge considering the number of past staffers including members of the intelligence community and armed forces that have publicly come out and stated just that and been extremely consistent in their stories. The Downing Street memo has never been fully answered and attempts by congressmen to investigate it were brutally squashed by the Republican power block.

History shows us actions such as these are common in American politics so this isn't science fiction REB. Remember Iran-Contra? Tell me about the USS Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin, the flubbed Bay of Pigs.

The one consistent thing I notice about you, Tom, SDAI, Evil, etc. is that you're totally out of touch with human behavior. You fill yourselves up with buzz words, poll results, talking points, and yet you know not a clue about interacting with the rest of us. You completely dismiss feelings about the most devisive president I've seen in my 52 years of life and somehow try to put the blame back on the people that are legitimately angered by him. You have no understanding for why we're the target of terrorists other than simplistic good guy/bad guy stuff like we're in some idiotic black and white 50's cowboy drama. You masquerade true debate by placing labels on it instead of exploring the thinking that went into your opponent's point of view. I really pity you in that regard.

It must be scary having to be told how to think by your media darlings like Ann Coulter or pompous asses like Pat Robertson because they never simply present facts and allow you to sort them out logically. They tell you what's right and wrong like you don't have the mental capacity to learn from your interactions with others. Hell, maybe it's simpler that way having no shades of grey but I know the subtleties make my life richer.

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