"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."

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"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."

George Orwell 1984 — 6/7/2007 10:40:07 PM (archived)

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The Secret History of the American Empire - ds - 6/5/2007 7:08:17 PM
- LINDY IS THAT YOU? (n/t) - Carl Rove - 6/6/2007 9:12:02 PM
  - re: Doesn't sound like Lindy (n/t) - Jody - 6/7/2007 12:09:20 AM
    - It isn't. - TB - 6/7/2007 1:51:00 AM
      - Wow - now that's how you do a backhanded compliment - ds - 6/7/2007 1:45:58 PM
        
        If brains of a hedgehog, you mean... - Jody - 6/8/2007 12:28:49 PM
        
        re: Wow - now that's how you do a backhanded compliment - Lindy - 6/7/2007 7:05:57 PM
        
        Brains of a hedge hog? - Lindy - 6/7/2007 6:16:09 PM
        
        Geesh, Lindy, I was defending you - CropCirclesRUs - 6/7/2007 6:57:10 PM
      - ...and you, TB, our resident" Bush Baby..." - Jody - 6/7/2007 12:43:15 PM
        
        Conspiracy: An inconvienent truth. (n/t) - Jody - 6/8/2007 12:47:34 PM
      - " If there is one good common side effect of having a mind so open..." - Lindy - 6/7/2007 3:32:23 AM
        
        re: hangars - TB - 6/7/2007 5:16:06 AM
        
        " A little black piece of plastic - Jody - 6/8/2007 1:09:23 PM
        
        lower expectations? - Ray - 6/8/2007 9:44:12 PM
        
        Darlin'...don't you mean The Rapture? (n/t) - Jody - 6/8/2007 11:02:51 PM
        
        History is written by the winners - Jody - 6/7/2007 12:01:20 PM
        
        Reality check (probably not much use on this thread) - TB - 6/7/2007 5:16:45 PM
        
        re: Reality check (probably not much use with you Tom) - Jody - 6/8/2007 11:44:34 AM
        
        I did not feel ANY burden of proof was on you... - Jody - 6/7/2007 6:53:22 PM
        
        "Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious." (n/t) - George Orwell 1984 - 6/7/2007 10:40:07 PM
        
        And that means exactly what? (n/t) - TB - 6/7/2007 11:35:40 PM
        
        Give it up Tom...you know what Lindy meant..you are nit-picking (n/t) - Jody - 6/8/2007 11:53:33 AM
        
        Why don't you give it a try? - TB - 6/8/2007 7:52:27 PM
        
        re: Why don't you give it a try? - Jody - 6/8/2007 8:42:47 PM
        
        May be it's just not gonna happen this lifetime to him - Lindy - 6/8/2007 10:36:17 PM
        
        Nice try. Go read the book. (n/t) - TB - 6/8/2007 8:54:49 PM
        
        But aren't quotes (sayings) subjective? - Jody - 6/8/2007 10:08:22 PM
        
        TB - Barl - 6/8/2007 10:54:19 PM
        
        Eh, not like I have anything else to do. - TB - 6/9/2007 1:18:02 AM
        
        Barl...or Bard?... - Jody - 6/8/2007 10:58:38 PM
        
        You asked me to rephrase it....I thought you meant..what does it mean to me? - Jody - 6/8/2007 10:10:41 PM
        
        ...or what I thought Lindy meant by quoting it... (n/t) - Jody - 6/8/2007 10:12:09 PM
        
        Obviously it went right over your head.......... - Lindy - 6/8/2007 1:31:53 AM
        
        Lindy, the sentence is self-cancelling. - TB - 6/8/2007 2:37:08 AM
- re:the book just came to my B&N yesterday.... - Jody - 6/6/2007 4:23:13 PM
- I have known this for quite sometime.... - Jody - 6/6/2007 1:48:07 PM
  - re: I have known this for quite sometime.... - Lindy - 6/7/2007 3:33:43 AM
    - Lucky you!! - Jody - 6/7/2007 4:46:55 AM
  - We were paramount in putting Hitler in power - Jody - 6/6/2007 1:53:21 PM
    - International banking... - Jody - 6/7/2007 1:51:19 PM
      - re: International banking... - Jody - 6/7/2007 2:03:57 PM
    - re: We were paramount in turning the USSR into a super power. - Lee - 6/6/2007 8:40:32 PM
    - re: Ever hear of the Rothchilds...from England? - Jody - 6/6/2007 2:13:06 PM
      - re: Ever hear of the Rothchilds...from England? - Lindy - 6/7/2007 3:37:17 AM
      - re: Ever hear of the Rothchilds...from England? - Jody - 6/7/2007 3:19:47 AM
        
        "Mayer set the pattern"...The New Encyclopedia Brittannica, Vol. 10 p.201 (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 4:09:00 AM
        
        OOPS!...Wrong reference...I am still looking...get back to you (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 4:32:32 AM
        
        That reference goes to this quote: - Jody - 6/11/2007 4:37:54 AM
        
        re: In 1922, former NY mayor John F. Haylon stated - Jody - 6/7/2007 3:58:58 AM
        
        "Haylon Takes a Stand on National Issues, The New York Times (March27, 1922) p.3 (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 3:51:57 AM
        
        In a letter dated November 23, 1933 - Jody - 6/7/2007 4:05:27 AM
        
        Elliot Roosevelt..F.D.R. His Personal Letters 1928-1945, Vol.1 (New York: Duell, Sloan & Pearce, 1950 pp.371-73 (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 3:49:34 AM
        
        re: U.S. Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter - Jody - 6/7/2007 4:09:23 AM
        
        Justice Frankfurter: James Perloff, The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline (Appleton, WS: Western Islands , 1988...p.3 (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 3:46:45 AM
        
        President Woodrow Wilson - Jody - 6/7/2007 4:14:13 AM
        
        The New Freedom (New York: Doubleday, 1914..pp.13-14 (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 3:42:57 AM
        
        British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli - Jody - 6/7/2007 4:20:46 AM
        
        Benjamin Disraeli: Nesta H. Webster, Secret Societies and Subversive Movements (Palmdale, CA: Omni Publications..reprint of orig.1924 editionp.iv (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 3:55:30 AM
        
        Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty(retired) served as a - Jody - 6/7/2007 4:33:37 AM
        
        The Secret Team: The CIA and its' Allies in Control of the United States and the World( Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, Inc.,1973 pp.2-3 (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 3:58:17 AM
        
        re: Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty - Jody - 6/7/2007 4:38:01 AM
        
        see above post (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 3:59:33 AM
        
        re: Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty - Jody - 6/7/2007 4:42:56 AM
        
        see above post (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 4:00:18 AM
        
        President Franklin D. Roosevelt... - Jody - 6/7/2007 4:57:29 AM
        
        re: President Franklin D. Roosevelt: Epperson (1985) p.7 (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 4:02:29 AM
        
        You got a problem with your posting system? (n/t) - TB - 6/7/2007 5:20:00 AM
        
        re: You got a problem with your belief system? (n/t) - Jody - 6/7/2007 11:58:00 AM
        
        What I've always found fascinating... - TB - 6/7/2007 5:30:43 AM
        
        re: What I've always found fascinating... - Jody - 6/8/2007 11:28:00 AM
        
        Accidental vs. Conspiritorial - Jody - 6/8/2007 4:29:10 AM
        
        re: Accidental vs. Conspiritorial - Lindy - 6/8/2007 2:02:36 PM
        
        Ah, yes The Gospel according to Tom.. (n/t) - Jody - 6/7/2007 11:39:37 AM
        
        Does TB stand for Totally Biased? (n/t) - Jody - 6/7/2007 12:02:30 PM
        
        re: Nope, probably True Believer (n/t) - Jody - 6/7/2007 3:12:39 PM
        
        So TB - you deny that certain American companies helped the Nazis in WW2 kill lots of Jews? - ds - 6/7/2007 1:49:42 PM
        
        re: In 1922, former NY mayor John F. Haylon stated - Lindy - 6/7/2007 4:05:07 AM
      - Don't forget the Bilderbergers and the Lizard People. (n/t) - TB - 6/6/2007 6:01:20 PM
        
        re: Don't forget the Bilderbergers and the Lizard People. - Lindy - 6/7/2007 3:38:34 AM
        
        re: Don't forget the Bilderbergers - Jody - 6/7/2007 3:36:40 AM
        
        M16 creation: Dr. John Coleman, Conspirators" Hierarchy: The story of the Committee of the 300 (Carson City, NV: America West Publishers 1992..p 207 (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 3:40:14 AM
        
        Now the Lizard people... - Jody - 6/7/2007 3:39:50 AM
        
        I quoted me (n/t) - Jody - 6/11/2007 4:48:24 AM
        
        re: Now the Lizard people... - Lindy - 6/7/2007 3:42:31 AM
      - I like their candies - ds - 6/6/2007 2:46:58 PM
        
        re: No...but I am not surprised...*sigh*... - Jody - 6/6/2007 3:13:43 PM
        
        "even if .001 is true ........." - Lindy - 6/7/2007 3:41:31 AM
        
        yep...and I thought I had control issues.!!!! (n/t) - Jody - 6/7/2007 5:08:29 AM
        
        Quick - ds - 6/6/2007 4:01:58 PM
        
        re: Ford and Hitler - Jody - 6/7/2007 1:19:06 PM
        
        re: Quick - Lindy - 6/7/2007 3:43:50 AM
        
        re: WARNING: Warning...Danger Will Robinson!! - Jody - 6/6/2007 4:42:33 PM
        
        "Proceed directly to denial " - Lindy - 6/7/2007 3:45:19 AM
        
        IBM and the Holocaust - ds - 6/6/2007 4:12:00 PM
        
        re: IBM and the Holocaust - Lindy - 6/7/2007 3:49:29 AM
        
        re: IBM and the Holocaust - ds - 6/7/2007 1:59:57 PM
        
        Resisting the Empire - ds - 6/7/2007 8:22:23 PM
        
        Wow. - TB - 6/7/2007 10:25:05 PM
        
        Are you suggesting a conspiracy Tom? (n/t) - Jody - 6/8/2007 4:36:21 AM
        
        I believe I was talking about only one person. - TB - 6/8/2007 8:29:33 PM
        
        Note how TB - ds - 6/8/2007 11:53:11 AM
        
        re: Note how ds - TB - 6/8/2007 8:28:19 PM
        
        Concentrate... concentrate... orange juice made from concentrate - ds - 6/8/2007 8:34:52 PM
        
        Quick question: how do you feel about the Cuba embargo? (n/t) - TB - 6/8/2007 9:01:23 PM
        
        I think it is time to end it - ds - 6/11/2007 4:08:43 PM
        
        It has taken me a long while to get it...but I finally am. (n/t) - Jody - 6/8/2007 12:32:29 PM

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