"Are we trying to stipulate that your side has been the very picture of calm reason and informed opposition on this issue since March of 1993? Or since January of 2001, come to that?"

The people who were screaming
'COWARDS! COWARDS'
.... Who were they? The people being called that? Who were they?

While I agree with you that we should pull together to avert disaster and mass murder in Iraq, but now that your pack of babbling baboons need the left, how much do you think the left is going to listen?

" I get a lot more personal abuse on this board than I dish out."

No you are just more polite/disingenuous in dishing it out. While I'm pretty blunt about my feelings, you trot the cutesy little Rumsfeldian theatrics, implying that we're all reality-denying idiots with short memories and 2-dimensional views about the issues at hand. Like Rumsfeld in 2003/2004. Sorry- you don't have to call someone a stupid asshole to call them a stupid asshole.

"IMO, for far too many people this has never really been about Iraq at all. "

Case in point. All those who disagree with your positions are disingenuous people out to score political points... yeah... Okay Tom.

"successes in Iraq seemed to infuriate a lot of Democrats more than the failures did."

And, here we are again. Just like with everything else, you don't even see it.

"I'll say it yet again: There are those in the current party leadership in Washington who look like they would gladly see half the planet burn if Bush burned with it."

And on and on and on.

"Unless they are completely stupid--and I'm not ruling that out"

And on and on.,
"Yet Reid and others are about to make another run at shutting the war down in the middle of Petraeus' operation"

(Implying that Petraeus' operation is a staggering success)

And on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on

OOOOOkkkkayyyyy Tom. Like I said, the dumbest smart person I have ever met.