re: Aristotle

Yeti — 3/5/2008 5:07:06 AM (archived)

No, not at all. Aristotle is all fine and good, but all the way back to Anaxamander people were positing 'first principles'. Heraclitus was so awesome because his first principle was something like a hidden set of laws by which all the universe and its stuff behaved- not an element or etc. (well,I think somewhere he likens the logos to an element... Fire I think, but I'm not sure... But its an analogy and not a claim of identity)

One thing I'll never forgive Sagan for was his stupid and uninformed attack on Pythagoras and so many of the ancient Greeks. But particularly Pythagoras. Hes one to look into. He never produced a corpus of thought per-se, but lead a school of thought that really marks a change in the way mathematics was approached by philosophers. IE- towards the direction that the 'scientist' uses it today.

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Anyone have a favorite philosopher?...and why? - Jody - 3/3/2008 7:07:08 PM
- My Grandpa - RNE - 3/6/2008 1:23:22 PM
- The Ionians and the existentialists - ER - 3/5/2008 3:08:17 AM
  - re: The Ionians and the existentialists. - Excellent. (n/t) - Marcia - 3/6/2008 1:39:47 PM
  - Lucy - Bowser - 3/6/2008 2:53:22 AM
    - I LOVE LUCY!!!! - carl - 3/6/2008 6:41:18 PM
      - Yeah, but Ricky was the brains in that couple. (n/t) - ER - 3/6/2008 8:32:55 PM
        
        ONSCREEN, YEAH.......... - carl - 3/6/2008 8:41:32 PM
    - re: Lucy - TB - 3/6/2008 3:32:47 AM
      - in the sky, with diamonds. - ER - 3/6/2008 3:11:43 PM
        
        The Alamo was a spiritual experience. - Jody - 3/6/2008 3:36:29 PM
- Pogo. - Bowser - 3/4/2008 10:10:30 PM
  - Right on! - Eri - 3/5/2008 1:25:33 AM
- And then, the ever popular - FrankC - 3/4/2008 6:29:31 PM
  - Forrest GUMP - carl - 3/4/2008 9:05:56 PM
- This is mine - Jody - 3/4/2008 12:37:36 PM
- Several - Yeti - 3/4/2008 6:27:50 AM
  - Whoa!...I was wondering when I would get your imput;) (n/t) - Jody - 3/5/2008 5:34:54 PM
  - Good list, and good reasons - TB - 3/4/2008 5:46:58 PM
    - Okay, I feel a bit better now... - TB - 3/4/2008 5:52:14 PM
      - The Logos is the thing. The single greatest thought ever thought. - Yeti - 3/4/2008 9:59:16 PM
        
        Cool! - TB - 3/5/2008 12:44:22 AM
        
        re: Aristotle - Yeti - 3/5/2008 5:07:06 AM
        
        No one asked Xanthippe - ER - 3/5/2008 2:50:21 PM
        
        re: Socrates and Plato - Yeti - 3/5/2008 5:47:18 PM
  - PS - Yeti - 3/4/2008 6:31:23 AM
- Writer-Philosophers - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/3/2008 10:52:28 PM
  - Please explain true morality and honesty. (n/t) - Jody - 3/4/2008 12:00:54 AM
    - re: Please explain true morality and honesty. - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/4/2008 1:53:26 AM
- Camus - alcaray - 3/3/2008 10:43:16 PM
- Socrates himself is particularly missed - Tony - 3/3/2008 10:10:38 PM
- re: Anyone have a favorite philosopher?...and why? - Vinc - 3/3/2008 8:32:47 PM
- Actually one of my favorite philosophers is... - Socrates II - 3/3/2008 8:03:41 PM
- Alan Watts (n/t) - ER - 3/3/2008 8:03:09 PM
  - Watts' "The Way of Zen" is the only philosophy book I own - Fox - 3/4/2008 2:11:45 AM
    - If God won't listen to reason, then we're all lost. (n/t) - ER - 3/4/2008 4:18:36 AM
      - But He knows what reason is and we don't... - alcaray - 3/5/2008 5:30:11 PM
        
        Jesus is coming. Look busy. (n/t) - ER - 3/5/2008 6:21:51 PM
  - re: Alan Watts - gbaikie - 3/4/2008 1:15:59 AM
  - Not bad. - TB - 3/3/2008 8:23:23 PM
    - Watts was a Christian. - ER - 3/3/2008 9:18:40 PM
- Ayn Rand - TB - 3/3/2008 7:34:38 PM
  - Odd - Bowser - 3/3/2008 8:27:29 PM
- For anyone interested... - Jody - 3/3/2008 7:13:17 PM
  - re: For anyone interested... - Marcia - 3/3/2008 8:25:32 PM
  - An author.... - Raoul - 3/3/2008 7:59:23 PM

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