...you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. You have enough contact with youth to know that quite a few DO fit the bill.

Unfortunately, that group is growing exponentially. You probably know that too.

As for talking teens on a path to *success* - I do that all the time. I just don't talk about it much.

It's not the girls its their parents & their environment. It's the clicks they hang out in that only talk about boys 24/7. Who likes who...who was staring at who and who went out with whom just to get to so-n-so. All this at age 11. By the time 15 and 16 roles around the environmental pressure reaches critical mass and unless the girl's maturity and wisdom has increased - and it certainly helps if she has the right friends - another very real statistic is added to the teen pregnancy issue.

I truly wish I were just playing the devil's advocate instead of seeing a very real emerging attitude in a segment of the teen population.