It's the ideal.

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It's the ideal.

RobVG — 8/18/2022 6:47:03 PM (archived)

While it's not reality, what's in the pledge are things we should all strive for.
Progress has been made but not without struggle. The civil rights movement, equality for women and the gay rights movement are all examples.
But thanks to Trump and his conservative judges, women's rights have taken a giant step backwards.

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Movie kerfuffle - RobVG - 8/15/2022 9:40:24 PM
- "I'm sure there are very fine people, on both sides" - ER - 8/16/2022 2:04:20 AM
  - Hmm. - RobVG - 8/17/2022 11:26:13 PM
    - Honestly Curious - podrock - 8/18/2022 1:16:45 AM
      - Victimization fantasies? - ER - 8/18/2022 3:10:05 AM
        
        Really? - RobVG - 8/18/2022 6:26:47 PM
        
        Absolutely - ER - 8/18/2022 8:31:40 PM
        
        An isolated observation from a perceptive foreigner... - ER - 8/18/2022 3:40:21 AM
        
        So the word "God" makes it all bullshit? n/t - RobVG - 8/18/2022 6:30:59 PM
        
        God or not, its all bullshit. - ER - 8/18/2022 8:02:53 PM
        
        You see a fascist around every corner. - RobVG - 8/18/2022 8:25:25 PM
        
        Not every corner. Just about 40% of them. - ER - 8/18/2022 8:34:27 PM
        
        That word was added later, BTW - podrock - 8/18/2022 7:12:40 PM
        
        The history: - podrock - 8/19/2022 12:24:23 AM
        
        And if you don't recite the Pledge... - ER - 8/19/2022 12:58:21 AM
        
        It is blatantly unconstitutional - podrock - 8/19/2022 1:25:51 AM
        
        Should we stand for the national anthem? n/t - RobVG - 8/19/2022 6:22:27 PM
        
        Try it. - podrock - 8/20/2022 4:25:28 AM
        
        Good point. No thanks. n/t - RobVG - 8/21/2022 7:02:07 AM
        
        I do. - ER - 8/19/2022 8:32:11 PM
        
        I'm getting it. - RobVG - 8/19/2022 8:41:48 PM
        
        If you choose to. - podrock - 8/19/2022 8:05:49 PM
        
        There's a reason why its so popular with Conservatives. - ER - 8/19/2022 1:45:41 AM
        
        It's the ideal. - RobVG - 8/18/2022 6:47:03 PM
        
        "With liberty and justice FOR ALL." - podrock - 8/19/2022 4:24:58 AM
        
        You're right. n/t - RobVG - 8/19/2022 7:46:06 PM
    - No one ever said you should be ashamed of being an American. - ER - 8/18/2022 12:19:47 AM
      - Funny thing. I'm growing embarrassed to be an American. - podrock - 8/19/2022 5:11:26 AM
        
        With me, its not just shame, embarassment or sadness. - ER - 8/19/2022 1:50:51 PM

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