Hi Steve,

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I can understand your desire to show balance in the universe, but i think there are some flaws in your philosophy. Since we are now speaking philosphically, and using words which can be inadequate to the topic at hand, let me first say that I am not one that is easily offended, so no need to worry about offending me. I percieve you to be the same, so I doubt you will take offense at my words, but just in case I will provide a blanket "No offense intended".

What I am not understanding about your philosophy is this:

If I am bad in this life, I will be good in the next, but if I am good in this life to balance that out I should be bad in the next otherwise there is no balance.



No, that's not quite right Steve...
The essence is this - good and evil are relative expressions and as you evolve today's good will become tomorrow's evil. In each life you will do things that can be considered good or evil depending upon your perspective and understanding.

As I see it balance has nothing to do with being good or bad. If so why the drive to be better and not worse? A person is good or bad because of personal decisions, which are more than likely influenced by their surroundings.



Your philosophy is taking away the responsibility of personal actions and decisions. I think I know what you're going to say next: "But in the infinite they are being held responsible". Was I close?



Yes, each person is their own judge, jury and executioner. Personal responsiblity is not taken away - but rests solely on the individual. Sins cannot be forgiven, but only balanced by learning of their 'evil' and enough energy exerted to balance past actions. Understanding that pushing someone into the dirt isn't good, is not enough - one must balance those past actions with helping pick people up from the dirt, and perhaps teaching others why such behavior is not acceptable.

The drive for improving oneself and become more infinite or intelligent in expression - is not spurred by fear of hell or punishment but by understanding.

When one understands theat energy regenerates itself we see that all our negative acts will keep repeating and the suffering we cause will come back to us in spades (as it has also regenerated and grown like a snowball falling down a mountain) we will see the endless misery we are setting up for our future. We condemn ourself to lives of strife, conflict, hatred, fear and suffering. A negatively expressing person who is on the precipice, but understands some of this must make a decision. When one understands, that what one is doing is not the most intelligent action - but does it anyway this is far more destructive than the person who is still ignorant of a better way.

Eventually a person who does this destroys themself - not hell - but actual oblivion. It may take many lifetimes, but this person slowly dismantles the structures they worked so long to build up. That should be motivation enough to keep progressing. Even stagnation is unacceptable - because stagnation in an evolving universe is retrogression. That is why it is so important that each and every moment, each thought and action must be lived using all one's wisdom and experience.

We our only conscious of the finite, not the infinite. Responsibility must also be faced in the finite if it is to be faced at all by the individual. I see your philosophy as being a grand cop-out for those who wish to make bad decisions now in hope of it being resolved later. I see it as similar to Credit Card debt. Enjoy the benefits now, the credit can always be payed back later (with a mountain of interest of course)

No. Because as I explained above..it gets harder and harder to balance these things out. Once one sees that snowball forming one must pounce on it and not let it get out of hand. Each thought and action will regenerate and reappear in one's future. We build our future every moment. If we become 'slackers' and let ourselves fall by the wayside our future will be bleak. The conscious effort to balance distorted thoughts, hate, etc. becomes an almost insurmountable task.

This is why anyone who would be advanced enough to be considered a deity or advanced being - does not interfere in the problems of mankind. If some being were to solve our problems, or answer our prayers - we would be robbed of our own self-determination and initiative. Eventually we would become dependant upon these beings and would be like mush - unable to solve our own problems. Even worse we might resent these beings when they did not solve our problems and answer our prayers, etc. Soon humanity would be vegetable like.

One can only imagine the scary results if any deity started answering prayers - wholesale destruction and chaos would ensue!

Interestingly many religions also have similar teachings. Many just as flawed IMO as your philosophy. "Do what you wish good or bad it only matters that you believe in Christ and you will be saved" is as equally repulsive to me.

Yes this absolves personal responsibility and allows people to be hellions so long as on their deathbed they ask to be saved by Christ. My beliefs are not of this nature. No one can save you from your actions but you. We all are responsible for our thoughts as well - even negative thinking regenerates. How many times can one get into a real depressed or angry mood - just by following one simple negative thought? If we allow negative expression to influence us - and say 'well I will be better tomorrow.' - that tomorrow will never come.

Also there is a fundamental aspect which is also important to discuss. Certain events and actions will have more energy in their structure and if they are negatively biased - they can contaminate and slowly destroy the rest of our structures.

Drug addiction, obssessions, etc. - all can quickly dismantle the progress we have made and leave us in an incapacitated and pitiful state. It is at these times, when we are down and may wish for intervention that outside forces may help to inspire us to make our own saving effort. They cannot save us...but they can show us an example, a picture, a story - a rainbow - a small child ...or any countless ways which may strengthen our own personal resolve to remedy our plight.


As a christian, (specifically of the LDS or "mormon" faith), I do ultimatly believe the balance you seek will be achieved. I don't believe it will be meted out by other siblings, but by God himself. For only he has the eternal perspective for such justice. Now let me stop, lest I get accused of peddling my wares :) but suffice to say there are other philosophies out there that "Science" has no hold upon until that aspect of science is discovered. The earth was a sphere before a scientist proved it. Until then it was possibly considered an element of faith. I am content to call my faith just that, until science catches up so to speak. Are you?



Best wishes,
-Steve G.



Well many aspects of my scientific or 'metaphysical' belief's are still belief's and based upon sound scientific principles, they are not faith per'se.

Eventually as the quantum, wave based universe passes underneath the scientists observant eyes - and is broadened to cover consciousness, etc. I believe more of these things will become evident.

I also believe that reincarnation will gather evidence as brain wave signatures are recorded for each person and kept on file. When some unique pattern passes and an almost identical one reappears - and then this happens more and more often - the body of evidence will start to come in ;-)

Take care Steve,

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