FYI Frank, Socrates is generally considered to be the father of philosophy. Nietzche died in an insane asylum. Ayn Rand (along with Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman) is a neoclassical liberal in the mold of Herbert Spencer.

Neoclassical liberalism is defined as the "nightwatchman state" in which government is seen as having the duty to protect the life, liberty and property of the citizen.

Is this the sort of misinformation and silliness we liberals use to lead so many astray? Sometimes thought requires going beyond bumper stickers.

It seems to the modern liberal that anyone who values individual liberty will want to take steps to overcome the circumstances in our society-poverty, ignorance, illness, and prejudice- that pose obstacles to positive freedom. Only through government can this be done. Is there any possible excuse to not do this?