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Re: Chemical vs. literal

Well, some are crimes of violence expressed sexually. I know the feminists keep making the point they are crimes of violence, not sex. I think they do that to try to get it out of the merely "kinky" category.

They are also sexual crimes. Guys DO 'get off'. I remember the first time I questioned a "flasher", a guy who had been in trouble for 30 years for "flashing". Nothing else, just "flashed". When I met him he was 55 years old, had been in trouble since he was 25. Continuously. Had never had a better job than landscape gardener.

And his flashing was a sexual act. Too. For him.

The chemicals reduce the sex drive. There are quite a few of them. Those same chemicals also have a tendency to reduce the energy available for getting angry.

That reduces the chance of a crime, as it takes both a sexual drive and anger to carry these out.

Sexual criminals come in all degrees, and it's not true none of them can be rehabilitated. The more extreme can't, and I'm not against the death penalty if there's a chance they would do it again.

I knew a guy who was on parole for statuatory rape. Sex with a 13 y/o girl. Spent a couple of years in the slam, had 5 or 6 years parole.

He was about 45 years old, a menial maintenance worker at a fabricating plant and had done that for 25 years minus time served. He lived in a small, inexpensive apartment, and drank more than he should have. he could say hi, she-it, and a few more things. A lousy pool player, didn't even try darts, could usually hit the buttons on the juke box he intended to. Many people would consider him sort of inadequate in many ways. Friendly and well-meaning, would do anything for anyone.

At one point a woman who hung out at a neighborhood bar thought he looked pretty good. A steady income, however modest, and health insurance is valued in some of the lower reaches of your culture. She pursued him, his first real "romance", and they got married. The lady and her 13 y/o daughter moved in.

After a while the new wife became infatuated with another fellow, who drove a truck. The lady ran off with the new fellow to Las Vegas, leaving daughter and a Dear John letter.

My guy was distraught. Step-daughter had been here before. Step-daughter suggested they take off together on a vacation. The fellow thought that was a good idea. He had never taken a vacation.

So, into his old car they pile, and off they go. They stay together, and, according to statements from the only people who were there, and consistent with past experience and practice, the young lady suggested they sleep in the same bed, and engage in acts which ought not have a very minor participant. I'm not convinced my guy would have pursued this matter, and it seems the young lady has had a way of living which enabled her to become very, very experienced and very, very manipulative while very, very young. That, by the way, is not an excuse for what my fellow did. He was guilty.

Mom came back to town with the truck driver. The driver was enough of a gentleman to stop the truck before pushing her out, and she came home repentant.

No daughter, no meal ticket. Nothing.

Mom wanders off to the bar, gets drunk, and covers her tail by talking about having to head off to Las Vegas to see a sick and dying mother. She's told the guy has not been around a while. She gets drunker and drunker, and a day later calls the cops. Tells them her 13 y/o daughter is not in school, and seems to have been kidnapped by the step-father.

The cops put out an announcement on TV, it hits the papers, and our villian is found, with 13 y/o.

He tells the story about as I have, the 13 y/o tells it about as he does, and embedded in that tale is a confession of statutory rape.

The mother is hollering her head off to cover her ass, and the guy is in deep doo-doo. Not only statuatory rape, but contibuting to the delinquency of a minor (took her out of school, remember) and whatever else a prosecutor who is looking at the numbers thinks he can put up against an impoverished, inadequate sexual predator. The prosecutor is trying to cram kidnapping into the mix, which could terrify anyone, including me. Might be a stretch, but it's working if it's a plea bargain gambit.

So, the fellow pleads to statuatory rape, dodges the other charges, and is off to live at public expense for a while.

And, he's guilty. No question.

And there's virtually no chance he would do the same thing again.

There are sexual predators and sexual predators. It's not all the same, there are degrees both of crime and criminal. And, society needs to err on the side of ensuring no more victims. But not all sexual criminals are beyond redemption.

Long story. Had fun remembering the guy. I wonder what has happened to him. That was a long time ago.

Arf

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