You can't, Frank. (And I really don't think you mean it.)

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Bowser — 9/9/2002 4:42:35 PM (archived)

When "one" (one nation, tribe, community, family, person) gives in to bullies it's over for them. The principle is the same, everywhere.

Honorable people, EVEN IF THEY KNOW THEY WILL LOSE, make it expensive for the aggressor. They don't, to quote someone, "kiss ass and try to make friends".

The most honorable people of recent times of whom I've read are the American POWs of the Vietnam war held in Hanoi. They knew they could be tortured to do or say anything (as we all could), and yet the code they developed was to make 'em work for it, not "kiss ass and try to make friends".

There was a Chamberlain thread here earlier. On a national level, Chamberlain's line, as I recall, was to "kiss ass and try to make friends".

Arf (aren't you the guy who said the Afghans get used to being killed? I don't think you could have meant that, either.)

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Some informative data on Iraq's weapons programs - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2002 11:28:55 AM
- Migawd, Tom! - Bowser - 9/8/2002 11:42:47 AM
  - What to do when faced with certain defeat - FrankC - 9/8/2002 12:30:22 PM
    - Not even GWB could lose that one. - Bowser - 9/8/2002 1:17:32 PM
      - How can I argue... - FrankC - 9/9/2002 3:02:49 PM
        
        You can't, Frank. (And I really don't think you mean it.) - Bowser - 9/9/2002 4:42:35 PM
        
        You can't have it both ways - FrankC - 9/9/2002 5:38:04 PM
        
        I think you struck a nerve... ;-) (n/t) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/9/2002 9:34:56 AM
        
        Yep, he's talking like a John Bircher now (nt) (n/t) - FrankC - 9/9/2002 9:47:39 AM
        
        You keep digging, Frank. - Bowser - 9/9/2002 8:15:10 AM
        
        Good idea - FrankC - 9/9/2002 10:02:22 AM
      - No, but clinton & gore and the dnc could. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/9/2002 1:54:53 PM
  - I rest my case... - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2002 11:49:55 AM
    - Arf is a consistent wackjob. ‡ (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/8/2002 2:59:49 PM
    - You should. It's very tired. n/t (n/t) - Bowser - 9/8/2002 1:09:12 PM
    - Yes, your Honor we have come to a verdict. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/8/2002 12:39:46 PM
      - 'GUILTY of the crime of ignoring the facts when presented' - Matt Burley - 9/8/2002 2:23:50 PM
        
        Re: 'the other's shoes - Raoul - 9/9/2002 10:15:17 AM
        
        Asking "why" isn't anti-american - Buck Galaxy - 9/10/2002 3:04:59 PM

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