You don't see anything self-contradictory in...
"We don't owe the gay community anything."
followed immediately by:
"We have an obligation to treat them wih courtesy, respect, and fairness, just like we should treat everybody else."?
Do you have a dictionary that makes an obligation a very different thing from a debt? I think you were working way too hard to find disagreement with Jody while basically paraphrasing what she said. TB does that a lot and it annoys the shit out of me.
