You're right. And I was going to do him the honor of not answering such an ill-advised rant, preferring to let the matter die. But you did a great job of explaining what he cannot understand.

All I've tried to point out is that actions have consequences. WTC, for instance, led to the US attacking Afghanistan and Iraq. An action, WTC, and consequences.

And then in Afghanistan and Iraq, thousands of innocent people were murdered by invaders. Actions. The consequences are often the empowerment of terrorists, who strike back at the countries involved.

As far as the strikes against civilians, the US guilty of deliberately killing civilians by the hundreds of thousands in modern times. The US carried WWII to civilians, with a vengeance, and on purpose. Terrorism by any definition.

The piety expressed, the outrage, at terrorist bombings is at the very, very best, naive. The US has a very casual regard for Afghani or Iraqi civilians. The US does not have the moral high ground.

And they strike back. As best they can.

For some, who regard "war" as a very clean affair fought by mature minds in children's bodies, with "smart bombs" only against military targets, who believe their men, women and motives are pure, and the men, women and motives of the other side as evil, then they will believe anything. War is dirty, unfair, brutal, cruel and a travesty. It maims and cripples not only the killed and wounded, but the killers.

As you pointed out they cannot understand that. Comes partly from believing your own propaganda. And the other part is immaturity. On their limited behalf one has to be around a while to see how things work. There's no sense trying to talk sense into someone who doesn't have a sensible frame of reference.

And, God knows, 1000 wrongs don't make a right. It's the innocent on all sides who suffer when people like George W. Bush start a war.

Arf