I just don't believe what you believe.

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I just don't believe what you believe.

Bowser — 4/21/2004 5:07:43 PM (archived)

We did not try this in Afghanistan. The Brits warned us repeatedly to not shoot up everything in sight. We slaughtered Afghanis by the thousands.

If you've ever seen an American unit under fire you might understand. It has almost unlimited ammunition in most cases, and uses it against anything which moves - man, woman and child.

The exception is when the unit is in the bush, and even then it can usually be resupplied by air. And in those cases most of the time they avoid anyone but the badguys.

We did NOT do much in the way of rebuilding. GWB in Japan reneged upon US promises, and told countries interested in aid to Afghanistan that the us was the primary force driving the Taliban out, and it's up to the rest of the world to rebuild it.

The US puppet in Kabul, Karzai, is begging the world for aid. There are promises, not much dribbling in, and that's after the hearts and minds have been lost in a body count.

We did Afghanistan exactly wrong. We did not win the support of the population. Didn't even try, except for kids sending pennies and some one-time supplies.

Arf

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Sounds like a typical concentration camp...paid by your tax dollars. - Jack Herer - 4/20/2004 8:02:08 PM
- More on the SCotUS argument - Fox - 4/23/2004 10:42:51 PM
- Gitmo is an abomination.... - Publius - 4/21/2004 1:02:41 PM
- They should be declared to "Prisoners of War" and held for the duration. That is the proper thing to do by international law. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 4/21/2004 1:18:22 AM
  - Al Qeada terrorists are not lawful combatants - Gary - 4/21/2004 6:00:24 AM
    - Perhaps, but we don't like summary executions. - David F Mayer - 4/21/2004 10:00:54 PM
    - "undue mercy" means they weren't summarily executed? - alcaray - 4/21/2004 5:23:17 PM
  - What "war"? - Bowser - 4/21/2004 1:52:34 AM
    - The war against Al Qaeda. - David F Mayer - 4/21/2004 10:04:36 PM
      - Do you declare war? How do you know when it ends? - Bowser - 4/22/2004 12:06:48 AM
        
        This has ample precedent in history: the Barbary Pirates for one. - David F Mayer - 4/22/2004 12:58:12 PM
        
        Absolutely barbaric. Makes us no different than the badguys. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/22/2004 7:37:07 PM
        
        What would YOU suggest? Letting Al Qaeda prisoners go? As long as Al Qaeda exists and continues to attack the USA, that is simply not feasible. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 4/22/2004 9:21:18 PM
    - re: war - Tom Brosz - 4/21/2004 4:17:43 AM
      - Legalistically, Bowser's point bears directly on Mr. Mayer's post. - alcaray - 4/21/2004 5:28:57 PM
        
        Wrong: That is exactly why it DOES work. It lets us hold them forever within International Law. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 4/22/2004 1:00:39 PM
        
        I hear you. But I think that's a circumvention of the law. - alcaray - 4/22/2004 4:16:45 PM
        
        The Geneva Conventions apply to all armed conflict, whether declared or not. - David F Mayer - 4/22/2004 9:24:12 PM
        
        You tend to speak in absolutes - alcaray - 4/23/2004 3:46:37 PM
      - Fallacy - Bowser - 4/21/2004 1:47:22 PM
        
        re: Fallacy - Tom Brosz - 4/21/2004 4:42:58 PM
        
        I just don't believe what you believe. - Bowser - 4/21/2004 5:07:43 PM
        
        Obviously. - Tom Brosz - 4/21/2004 10:29:11 PM
- "The most important theme in all the cases is the power of the president to conduct a new kind of war as he sees fit." - Lindy - 4/20/2004 9:39:23 PM
  - re: "The most important theme in all the cases is the power of the president to conduct a new kind of war as he sees fit." - Publius - 4/21/2004 12:39:31 PM
  - Good analysis... - Derek - 4/21/2004 12:41:35 AM
- It is, but it's "ours". - Bowser - 4/20/2004 9:28:58 PM
  - re: It is, but it's "ours". - Derek - 4/21/2004 12:49:57 AM

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