What's at stake

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What's at stake

Mary Anne — 6/13/2004 1:02:56 PM (archived)

What's at stake is our national soul.

We use coercive methods to interrogate people who have not been tried and convicted of anything, people who are technically, and who may be actually, innocent. This is not the America I love.

The America I love stands for justice. This is not justice.

The America I love does not engage in such activities and justify them by saying that we are not as bad as Saddam Hussein. The point is not to measure ourselves by a negative comparison to evil deeds, but by measuring ourselves by our own ideals and adhering to them. Every day. Even with people different from ourselves. Even with people we don't like.

Continue to act the way we have, and we can rewrite the old saying from Walt Kelley's Pogo: "We have seen the Evil Empire, and it is us."

I am sick at heart from all of this.

The whole thread (19 posts)

Abu Ghraib Used Aggressive Tactics - RobVG - 6/13/2004 2:51:40 AM
- Secret world of US jails - Eric - 6/14/2004 12:39:58 AM
  - When a nasty little monkey annoys the BIG GORILLA, he is going to be torn limb from limb. - David F Mayer - 6/14/2004 1:26:23 AM
    - Your post is offensive David - Lindy - 6/14/2004 3:21:46 AM
      - YOUR post is offensive. These guys were, for the most part, caught in the act of fighting for Al Qaeda. The HELL with them. - David F Mayer - 6/14/2004 10:46:53 AM
        
        So now you're judge and jury? - Lindy - 6/14/2004 5:04:02 PM
        
        It is the business of the captors to separate the wheat from the chaff. - David F Mayer - 6/14/2004 6:25:23 PM
        
        Before or after the Accord violations? Or are the violations part of the chaff separation process? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/14/2004 8:40:21 PM
        
        10 Things You Never Knew about Mohammed Atta - Lindy - 6/14/2004 5:40:24 PM
- re: Abu Ghraib Used Aggressive Tactics - RobVG - 6/13/2004 5:51:49 PM
  - re: Abu Ghraib Used Aggressive Tactics - Alan G. Archer - 6/13/2004 9:02:39 PM
- New Abu Torture Photos - Dogs Tear Flesh From Iraqis - Eric - 6/13/2004 2:16:58 PM
- What's at stake - Mary Anne - 6/13/2004 1:02:56 PM
  - re: What's at stake - Tom Brosz (public library in Wisconsin) - 6/15/2004 5:31:52 PM
    - re: What's at stake - gbaikie - 6/15/2004 10:42:52 PM
  - Thank you, Mary Anne, for giving voice to those powerful, anguished words (n/t) - McFly - 6/14/2004 1:50:23 PM
  - a national soul at stake............... - Publius - 6/13/2004 9:04:17 PM
- re: No, sir! - Raoul - 6/13/2004 9:43:16 AM
- re: Abu Ghraib Used Aggressive Tactics - Alan G. Archer - 6/13/2004 5:59:27 AM

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