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freedom is a new and separate topic from what we were discussing and what your right-wing spinmeister was pitching

alcaray — 1/14/2005 11:13:38 PM (archived)

Your bringing it up implies that you think I was saying that Castro's Cuba is better than Batista's. Of course I said no such thing. Further I do not believe it and never did.

Freedom is a lovely thing and I would not live without it. We have plenty of it in America (contrary to your assertions) and the more we have of it generally the better off we are.

Now, can I get you to admit that a lot of folk's lives were improved by the Cuban revolution?

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Castro is in big trouble now - Cuba has oil - LJ - 1/11/2005 4:53:50 PM
- Our neo-cons liked Batista even without oil. - Bowser - 1/12/2005 5:15:57 AM
  - Do think that Castro is better than Batista? - David F Mayer - 1/12/2005 11:42:36 PM
  - Our lefties don't mind Castro oppressing, jailing and killing tens of thousands of his own people - ebnelson - 1/12/2005 4:08:18 PM
    - can you link me to a supporting thread? (n/t) - alcaray - 1/13/2005 8:08:27 PM
      - Really? You seem to be informed, but are going to ask for links showing Castro is a tyrant? - ebnelson - 1/16/2005 4:45:29 PM
      - Next: alcaray wants links showing Republicans like tax cuts. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 1/14/2005 4:23:01 AM
        
        Perhaps, just perhaps - Tony - 1/14/2005 3:08:30 PM
        
        No kidding! Just asking for support that would avert my use of the term - alcaray - 1/14/2005 4:27:23 PM
      - re: I can think of 'a' good thread... make that actual people/familIES. (n/t) - Marcia - 1/14/2005 3:41:59 AM
        
        re: I can think of 'a' good thread... make that actual people/familIES. - Marcia - 1/14/2005 3:47:06 AM
        
        I took Ed's term: "our lefties" to mean people who post here - alcaray - 1/14/2005 4:29:09 PM
        
        Given that, your point is more understandable. - Tom Brosz - 1/14/2005 4:54:29 PM
        
        Well then show me support for Castro that comes from some semi-reputable left-wing source - alcaray - 1/14/2005 5:30:12 PM
        
        Good question. - Tom Brosz - 1/14/2005 6:10:05 PM
        
        If you want to translate admiration of the man's IQ to some kind of support for his policies - alcaray - 1/14/2005 6:56:04 PM
        
        Assenting to reality - Tom Brosz - 1/14/2005 10:34:20 PM
        
        freedom is a new and separate topic from what we were discussing and what your right-wing spinmeister was pitching - alcaray - 1/14/2005 11:13:38 PM
        
        No. It isn't. - Tom Brosz - 1/15/2005 1:09:53 AM
        
        Yes it is. - alcaray - 1/15/2005 5:43:59 PM
        
        re: Alcaray, I understand now... - Marcia - 1/14/2005 5:40:46 PM
        
        I get defensive about it too... - alcaray - 1/14/2005 6:42:21 PM
        
        For the record... - Tom Brosz - 1/14/2005 7:00:30 PM
        
        Yeah and I wish we could keep Fallwell from running the RNC - alcaray - 1/14/2005 7:09:22 PM
        
        Falwell hasn't been within a parsec of the RNC power structure. - Tom Brosz - 1/14/2005 7:42:43 PM
        
        I agree to the limits of Fallwell's powers. I assert that his effect is exactly the same as MM's on the DNC. (n/t) - alcaray - 1/14/2005 8:14:14 PM
    - According to the LEFT, tyranny is only real when right-wing tyrants are involved. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 1/12/2005 11:50:32 PM
      - Show me where I, Tony, Bowser, or anybody showed support for Castro (n/t) - alcaray - 1/14/2005 4:30:31 PM
  - Oh come on - FrankC - 1/12/2005 6:59:32 AM
    - Of course there were neocons back then... - Larry J - 1/12/2005 6:59:51 PM
      - Ah, a new meme is born - Tony - 1/12/2005 7:05:26 PM
        
        Hardly a new meme. - Tom Brosz - 1/12/2005 7:48:07 PM
        
        Did this come about before or after - Tony - 1/12/2005 8:44:14 PM
        
        Look up "cabal" sometime. - Tom Brosz - 1/13/2005 1:39:04 AM
        
        re: Look up "cabal" sometime. - alcaray - 1/14/2005 11:23:32 PM
- re: Castro is in big trouble now - Cuba has oil - gbaikie - 1/11/2005 9:37:52 PM
- Old news. - ebnelson - 1/11/2005 8:02:36 PM

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