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johannes — 7/11/2013 4:09:45 AM (archived)

The creativity of the people in the past has given us more complexity in various things such as vehicles and computers.
I suspect that useful complexity must have a creative mind behind it.
I can not comprehend how random or mindless arrangement of anything could produce useful complexity.

Oops, about the double post below, can you remove the other one? Thanks

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Science and religion (originally from Mysteries of the Multiverse) - bowser - 6/30/2013 5:06:30 AM
- Questions - johannes - 7/8/2013 7:17:56 PM
  - THE beginning was not the only beginning. - podrock - 7/11/2013 2:18:16 AM
  - Science doesn't need to explain anything. That's reliigion's job. - ER - 7/8/2013 8:39:54 PM
    - Interesting - johannes - 7/8/2013 11:27:15 PM
      - Who created the Creator? - ER - 7/9/2013 1:28:01 AM
        
        Creativity and imagination go hand in hand. - johannes - 7/10/2013 1:42:30 AM
        
        Are you are saying that creativity creates complexity? - podrock - 7/11/2013 2:03:28 AM
        
        Yes - johannes - 7/11/2013 4:09:45 AM
        
        Are you saying that despite having complex brains - johannes - 7/11/2013 3:04:40 AM
        
        What I saying is that.... - podrock - 7/11/2013 3:39:00 AM
        
        I agree that we are extremely low on the totem pole of life in the universe. - johannes - 7/11/2013 4:20:17 AM
        
        Are you saying that - johannes - 7/11/2013 2:58:10 AM
        
        no. that's not what I am saying. - podrock - 7/11/2013 3:08:24 AM
        
        I'm real enough. - ER - 7/10/2013 1:57:51 AM
        
        Noooo Don't tell me that, - johannes - 7/11/2013 12:55:11 AM
        
        I have not read any of the posts J - Jody - 7/11/2013 1:02:06 AM
        
        That would be one way that the energy could continue to exist. - johannes - 7/11/2013 2:36:12 AM
- Until I was about 12 I believed in god. - ER - 7/3/2013 1:09:07 AM
- Curiosity killed the cat, religion kills curiosity.... - podrock - 7/2/2013 10:03:46 PM
  - Co-existence. - bowser - 7/3/2013 5:31:24 AM
- That is a pretty narrow purpose for religion, that you and your friend agreed to! - alcaray - 7/1/2013 7:50:36 PM
  - Defining "awe" as always religious is an option, not one I'd take, though. - bowser - 7/2/2013 5:15:17 AM
- My friend Barbara observes: - Jody - 6/30/2013 4:25:35 PM
  - Hopefully, an appreciation of science can help us achieve that. - ER - 6/30/2013 6:26:18 PM
- There's no solace in science for me. - ER - 6/30/2013 11:53:18 AM
  - Where does our sense of awe come from. - RobVG - 6/30/2013 3:51:31 PM
    - Which doesn't really relate to the issue. - bowser - 7/1/2013 1:46:14 AM
      - Sorry, didn't mean to go off topic. - RobVG - 7/1/2013 3:24:04 AM
        
        "If it harms no one," - ER - 7/1/2013 2:26:30 PM
        
        Religion doesn't harm people any worse than science. - alcaray - 7/1/2013 7:55:24 PM
        
        I disagree. - ER - 7/1/2013 8:53:22 PM
        
        Different levels of technology usually determines who gets to call who "slave". - alcaray - 7/1/2013 10:22:43 PM
        
        Religion uses science, not the reverse. - bowser - 7/1/2013 8:48:58 PM
        
        The Nazis stated reason for going to war was economic. - ER - 7/1/2013 8:58:20 PM
        
        I didn't make my point very clear. - bowser - 7/1/2013 6:08:45 AM
        
        Reminds me of the guy - - - - bowser - 7/1/2013 6:00:18 AM
    - I think you hit it right on the head. - ER - 6/30/2013 5:18:09 PM
- For me, science satisfies my awe more than religion does. - podrock - 6/30/2013 5:19:46 AM
  - I completely agree Pod. - Jody - 6/30/2013 4:26:16 PM

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