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What mirror principle?

Frank Munsey, a director of U.S. Steel, writing to [Theodore] Roosevelt, seeing him as the best candidate for 1912, confided in him that the United States must move toward a more "parental guardianship of the people" who needed "the sustaining and guiding hand of the State". It was "the work of the state to think for the people and plan for the people", the steel executive said.

Howard Zinn's "The People's History of the United States" page 353 (# uncertain because of Kindle reformatting)

There's an endless amount of historical documentation supporting the view that plutocrats use the government to control the people. Yet you stubbornly maintain that the very people who've been denouncing and fighting the plutocrats for more than a century are the real oppressors. And you offer...what? in the way of evidence. Your visceral hatred of liberals doesn't persuade me.

You liked that chart of "guerrilla warfare" in the US, from the period 1965 to 1970, did you? Yes, I remember the '60s. Do you have any actual point, or are you satisfied with just the vague implication of something sinister? Want to examine domestic terrorism stats for a broader period? What they show (e.g. DHS 2008 http://start.umd.edu/start/publications/research_briefs/LaFree_Bersani_HotSpotsOfUSTerrorism.pdf) is that extreme left-wing terrorism was almost entirely confined to a narrow window of time, ~1965-1980, while extreme right-wing terrorism has been pretty much constant from that time until the present.

Do recall that Timothy McVeigh killed more people in one bombing than all those left-wing revolutionaries circa the '60s.

I'll wrap up on a more philosophical level. Zinn quoted the phrase "the natural selection of accidents" as an explanation of history, but without attribution. I tracked it down to Leon Trotsky, which probably explains Zinn's reticence. It's from Trotsky's autobiography:
I am not dealing here with the philosophy of history, but re counting my life against the background of the events with which it was bound up. But I cannot help noting how obligingly the accidental helps the historical law. Broadly speaking, the entire historical process is a refraction of the historical law through the accidental. In the language of biology, one might say that the historical law is realized through the natural selection of accidents. On this foundation, there develops that conscious human activity which subjects accidents to a process of artificial selection.


Intriguing idea.

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