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Hatred?

Yes, Nixon was a Quaker. He isn't the first example of a person who claims a religion without adhering to its doctrines.

Look at that site. Where do you see hatred?

I see criticism.

The criticism is rooted in the principles voiced not only by the critics, but also by those criticized. The point here is, if one holds one's self up as a model of civilized behavior, one ought to act like it all the time, not only when it's convenient.

Note also that the criticisms are by and large focused on governmental policies that undermine peaceful resolution and non-militarist opinions among the peoples governed. Governments feel the need to do something in order to justify their continuing power. (This point is raised often by conservatives when liberals want to, say, provide health insurance for people.) Negotiation and small group dialog over a wide area are seldom as sexy as sending in armed people to restore order. To facilitate conversation, though a legitimate government function that is far more useful in the long run than the use of force, doesn't look like "doing something".

The Israelis have had a lot to endure. I appreciate why they would reach for a stick before they would reach for an olive branch. I put it to you that the Palestinians have also endured a lot. We will see in the coming years how much trust is enough trust to allow these two nations to live, if not in peace, at least in non-combat.

The fact that some Israelis disagree with military solutions, to the point that the military solution is being removed in Gaza in hope that it will no longer be needed, indicates that Israel itself understands the moral ambiguity of some of its actions. Israelis, after all, have seen Palestinian faces all their lives, so it's more difficult to demonize all of them all the time than it is for Americans. Surely they look at fruitsellers and school children and don't always see the face of the enemy.

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