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Bowser — 11/14/2005 6:07:09 AM (archived)

Would the right of the political leadership to jail people indefinitely, secretly, without legal representation or charges characterize a fascist state?

Would the insistence of being able to torture people characterize a fascist state?

If you don't like Lindy's measures, because they apply to Bush and America, what measures do you like that don't fit America today?

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Terror For Export (where it wasn't before) - Bowser - 11/13/2005 9:24:41 PM
- re: where it wasn't before - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2005 10:49:18 PM
  - surely you don't think... - FrankC - 11/14/2005 12:38:48 AM
  - Obfuscation. - Bowser - 11/13/2005 11:22:11 PM
    - Let's see your numbers. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2005 12:39:08 AM
      - And if I do, which is ridiculous, will you concede you folks were entirely wrong? - Bowser - 11/14/2005 1:24:49 AM
        
        Not that easy. - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2005 4:51:55 AM
        
        Again - Is Iraq NOW a haven for al-Qaida - since Bush. - Bowser - 11/14/2005 6:04:40 AM
        
        Part of your problem - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2005 5:17:39 PM
        
        Missed that whole "flypaper" thing didn't ya? (n/t) - RobVG - 11/14/2005 6:08:55 AM
        
        Pretty hard to miss - alcaray - 11/15/2005 6:20:10 PM
        
        piss off... - RobVG - 11/16/2005 2:51:33 AM
        
        I declare victory in that exchange (n/t) - alcaray - 11/16/2005 4:44:24 PM
        
        Missed that whole "winning hearts and minds of Iraqi people" thing didn't ya? - Tony - 11/14/2005 8:34:42 PM
        
        The fact is this war has been a wonderful thing for terrorist recruiting... - R.L. - 11/14/2005 7:30:36 AM
        
        I concede (sort of) - RobVG - 11/16/2005 2:48:30 AM
        
        Where are YOUR numbers, R.L.? - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2005 5:19:18 PM
        
        Bizarre metric! - alcaray - 11/15/2005 6:34:14 PM
        
        Good grief. - Tom Brosz - 11/15/2005 8:45:14 PM
        
        So increasing amounts of terrorism doesn't mean increasing numbers of terrorists? - alcaray - 11/15/2005 9:08:59 PM
        
        No, the number of attacks is not a reliable indicator of the number of terrorists. - Tom Brosz - 11/15/2005 9:57:12 PM
        
        Where do you buy flypaper? - R.L. - 11/14/2005 7:26:49 AM
        
        BS is BS is BS. Simple questions, simple answers. - Bowser - 11/14/2005 6:48:13 AM
        
        Reality. - RobVG - 11/14/2005 7:18:32 AM
        
        Wasn't that the plan all along? - Lee - 11/14/2005 6:43:38 AM
        
        re: Wasn't that the plan all along? - Doug Ellison - 11/14/2005 1:36:34 PM
        
        You need a battlefield to wage a war. - Lee - 11/14/2005 8:14:38 PM
        
        re: You need a battlefield to wage a war. - Doug Ellison - 11/15/2005 8:52:21 AM
        
        No, they are being liberated. - Lee - 11/15/2005 8:15:07 PM
        
        Their not bait. - Scott Evil (SEN News) - 11/14/2005 2:42:43 PM
        
        It already does. - Tony - 11/14/2005 8:32:12 PM
        
        Their? (n/t) - R.L. - 11/14/2005 3:52:51 PM
        
        whatever. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 11/14/2005 4:33:37 PM
        
        He thinks it's proof of Unintelligent Design - Sam F. - 11/14/2005 6:28:10 AM
        
        Yer having trouble, too. Was Iraq a haven for al-Qaida before Bush? - Bowser - 11/14/2005 6:52:31 AM
        
        It's called the War on Terror - Sam F. - 11/14/2005 7:43:53 PM
        
        Bowser Subs for the Zone - Lindy - 11/14/2005 5:06:36 PM
        
        It is. Yes or no. Cut the crap. Or don't - we'll know. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/14/2005 5:07:22 AM
- Ah c'mon Bowser....... - Lindy - 11/13/2005 9:38:42 PM
  - Now, Lindy!! - Bowser - 11/13/2005 10:43:41 PM
    - 14 Indicators of a Fascist society - Lindy - 11/14/2005 1:21:54 AM
      - That is one scary article. - Bowser - 11/14/2005 1:26:52 AM
        
        Interesting: Mexico is more fascist than the US - Sam F. - 11/14/2005 3:38:47 AM
        
        "your doubleplusungood thoughts questioning the leadership. " Don't question, right? - Bowser - 11/14/2005 5:08:51 AM
        
        The US is not fascist by any fair measure - Sam F. - 11/14/2005 5:26:30 AM
        
        And your measures are? For instance - - - - Bowser - 11/14/2005 6:07:09 AM
        
        iAustralia is becoming increasingly authoritarian. Maybe the US too. But definitely not Fascist, nowhere near it - Daniel - 11/14/2005 4:31:58 PM
        
        Sure - Sam F. - 11/14/2005 6:18:21 AM
        
        "your doubleplusungood thoughts questioning the leadership. " Don't question, right? - Bowser - 11/14/2005 5:08:49 AM
        
        I said "doubleplus", not "doublepost". ;-) (n/t) - Sam F. - 11/14/2005 5:31:14 AM
        
        So you did, so you did. :-) (n/t) - Bpwser - 11/14/2005 6:08:14 AM

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