re: Qana

Daniel — 7/31/2006 10:46:14 AM (archived)

Yes it is terrible, at the very best a mistake; but I do not believe at all that Israel is "stolen land" and I do believe they have a right to defend themselves. But on the other hand I will not be some kind of shameless armchair warrior who cheers and condones this particular type of action.

It must be difficult however to know exactly what to do however, especially given the amount of intense hatred which is indoctrinated into so many (most?) Moslem Arabs from early childhood. It seems like the Israelis believe this is a war to the death, just like WW2 or similar. The world hates them because instead of lying down like the victim, they fight back using exactly the same tactics as other nations have done - and much worse - in similar circumstances.

Not that I"m condoning this, and I wish it was not happening. But nor will I develop hatred for Israel because of it.

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The tall story we Europeans now tell ourselves - gbaikie - 7/30/2006 12:02:44 PM
- re: Qana - Raoul - 7/30/2006 6:15:29 PM
  - Isreal says the building was collapsed several hours AFTER their strike. - Scott Evil - 7/31/2006 1:31:16 PM
    - re: Here's a link - Scott Evil - 7/31/2006 1:38:35 PM
      - I'm still putting that in the "wait and see" category. - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 4:55:17 PM
  - re: Qana - Daniel - 7/31/2006 10:46:14 AM
  - The shame, and the blame, belong with the Hezbollah religious fascists - sz - 7/30/2006 11:20:31 PM
    - re: The Hezbollah - Raoul - 7/31/2006 5:50:48 AM
      - They also get credit for helping to get rid of Israel's prior occupation. - alcaray - 7/31/2006 3:47:25 PM
      - re: The mafia and Al Capone were once very popular in the USA - Scott Evil - 7/31/2006 1:33:05 PM
      - The popularity of religious lunatics merely underscores the scope of the problem (n/t) - sz - 7/31/2006 12:11:29 PM
        
        You're correct. George Walker Bush, for example. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/31/2006 8:44:53 PM
      - And Mussolini made the trains run on time. - Lee - 7/31/2006 5:58:48 AM
    - Understandable, and basic, misunderstanding. - Bowser - 7/31/2006 1:53:30 AM
      - "justifies the ethnic cleansing Israel is doing" - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/31/2006 6:35:23 AM
      - The Israelis have used nukes? When? (n/t) - Lee - 7/31/2006 2:23:08 AM
        
        That was a long thoughtful post. Wanna say something relevant? (n/t) - Bowser - 7/31/2006 4:12:07 AM
        
        You said it...just wanted an example. (n/t) - Lee - 7/31/2006 6:00:04 AM
        
        You can't do it, can you. Ya got no substance. - Bowser - 7/31/2006 6:23:25 AM
        
        gee, for a moment I thought that was an apartment block in Haifa - Daniel - 7/31/2006 10:49:25 AM
        
        gee, for a moment I thought that was an apartment block in Haifa - Daniel - 7/31/2006 10:49:22 AM
        
        Good luck finding a picture of that in the media. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 5:11:24 PM
        
        Seriously. Posted on Flame. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 6:16:47 PM
- Anyone who can excuse Israel will LOVE the war in Iraq. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/30/2006 5:35:50 PM
  - Screw Iraq---look for the first showing of the sequel....The War in Iran.. - Publius - 7/31/2006 9:02:56 PM
- Israel news agency's defense - Daniel - 7/30/2006 1:55:23 PM
  - 56 people in one house killed....does this sound odd to anyone else? - Lee - 7/30/2006 10:16:00 PM
    - "Hezbollah probably forced these people into the house and began firing rockets from outside - - - " - Bowser - 7/31/2006 1:59:30 AM
      - These are the same people... - Lee - 7/31/2006 2:19:55 AM
        
        fair point (n/t) - Daniel - 7/31/2006 10:33:33 AM
        
        actually, probably not - Daniel - 7/31/2006 12:08:43 PM
  - IDF response on Qana - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 9:59:08 PM
    - And one more piece of preliminary information - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 10:32:47 PM
  - re: Israel news agency's defense - gbaikie - 7/30/2006 8:43:52 PM
  - Hezbollah and the PR war. - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 6:48:21 PM
    - The media does the same thing about casualties in Afghanistan - Lee - 7/31/2006 12:16:57 AM
    - More on the U.N. post bombing - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 6:51:19 PM
      - re: More on the U.N. post bombing-a questionable source - Andrew - 7/31/2006 2:35:05 AM
        
        re: source - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 8:18:50 AM
        
        re: source â€œUN under fire; what happened at patrol base Khiyam?â€ - Andrew - 7/31/2006 3:26:24 PM

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