For way too many people, half the planet could burn as long as Bush holds the matches.

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For way too many people, half the planet could burn as long as Bush holds the matches.

Tony — 2/7/2007 10:07:55 PM (archived)

There was not a strong likelihood of "winning" in Iraq outside of a 20 year occupation and sealed borders.

Afghanistan can still be won. I'm not so sure Iraq can be won anymore. I'd like to be wrong too.

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Time to call "nonsense" on training Iraqi army and police. - Bowser - 2/7/2007 2:30:44 AM
- re: Time to call "nonsense" on training Iraqi army and police. - gbaikie - 2/7/2007 7:31:11 AM
  - During real wars, we've done a lot better than that. - alcaray - 2/8/2007 12:02:17 AM
    - A little thing called culture comes into play. - Lee - 2/8/2007 8:54:56 AM
      - Perhaps your statement speaks to effectiveness. But it does not speak to numbers (which is what Geoff and I were talking about). (n/t) - alcaray - 2/8/2007 4:56:54 PM
    - re: During real wars, we've done a lot better than that. - gbaikie - 2/8/2007 4:08:45 AM
      - huh? (n/t) - alcaray - 2/8/2007 4:54:42 PM
        
        Sorry, I was dense. - alcaray - 2/8/2007 8:08:59 PM
        
        re: Sorry, I was dense. - gbaikie - 2/9/2007 12:14:04 AM
- You and the buttmonkeys at MSNBC are really worried this might work, aren't you? (n/t) - TB - 2/7/2007 2:40:08 AM
  - Please. The military and the Iraqis deserve better. Now what about the "training"? - Bowser - 2/7/2007 2:52:16 AM
    - re:The line - SteveS - 2/7/2007 3:09:24 PM
      - By the numbers. - Bowser - 2/7/2007 3:43:26 PM
        
        re: By the numbers. - SteveS - 2/7/2007 6:42:24 PM
        
        And bookmark the thread. - Bowser - 2/7/2007 7:36:35 PM
        
        re: And bookmark the thread. - SteveS - 2/8/2007 4:03:02 AM
        
        If we put you down in the Bush-supporter column, will you throw a hissy like Tom? (n/t) - alcaray - 2/8/2007 10:27:44 PM
        
        re:Canâ€™t we just debate the topics? - SteveS - 2/9/2007 2:37:19 PM
        
        I was teasing Tom. (n/t) - alcaray - 2/9/2007 5:55:47 PM
        
        re:You bully ;-) (n/t) - SteveS - 2/10/2007 3:43:44 PM
        
        I dont always agree Bow.... - Tony - 2/7/2007 10:09:38 PM
        
        "see if for once Conservatives are correct" - Laurie Street - 2/7/2007 8:24:04 PM
        
        for some, that's all it's about (n/t) - SteveS - 2/7/2007 8:35:36 PM
        
        That's all it's ever been about. - TB - 2/7/2007 8:54:12 PM
        
        For way too many people, half the planet could burn as long as Bush holds the matches. - Tony - 2/7/2007 10:07:55 PM
        
        ...as long as Bush holds the matches. - TB - 2/8/2007 3:54:56 AM
        
        Did I even mention you? - Tony - 2/8/2007 2:55:42 PM
        
        re: Did I even mention you? - SteveS - 2/8/2007 8:21:55 PM
        
        Still not true. - TB - 2/8/2007 3:41:37 PM
        
        If you don't think there has been a sea change on opinion on Iraq in last three months, not much more I can say. (n/t) - Tony - 2/8/2007 4:37:20 PM
        
        re: a sea change on opinion on Iraq - TB - 2/8/2007 5:03:21 PM
        
        I needed to be more specific - Tony - 2/8/2007 6:22:35 PM
        
        re: a sea change on opinion on Iraq - Yeti - 2/8/2007 6:03:09 PM
        
        No. - TB - 2/8/2007 8:24:36 PM
        
        re: No. - Yeti - 2/9/2007 12:07:57 AM
        
        Well, we'll just have to wait and see. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/7/2007 7:21:39 PM
        
        Link. - TB - 2/7/2007 5:48:17 PM

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