Pollsters too? Say it ain't so...

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Pollsters too? Say it ain't so...

ER — 11/20/2008 12:58:09 AM (archived)

"Lies, damn lies, and statistics."

"Figures don't lie, but liars can figure."

As a cartographer, I am very familiar with how maps can be used to lie, too. In fact "How to Lie With Maps" by Mark Monmonier, is a classic in the field. His best examples are from Joseph Goebbels and the real estate industry. Highly recommended.

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"How Obama got Elected" - TB - 11/19/2008 9:11:46 PM
- And you claimed OBAMA was elitist?!!! - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 2:10:00 AM
- And wow, it's amazing how that sneaky liberal media also got Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry elected! - z - 11/21/2008 11:01:16 PM
  - Hey, quit trying to confuse me with that gotcha "common-sense" crap (n/t) - Joe Sixpack - 11/21/2008 11:26:06 PM
- The Wall Street Journal weighs in - Yeti - 11/21/2008 6:55:52 PM
  - A good article, with valid criticisms. - TB - 11/21/2008 7:42:41 PM
    - re: I have already acknowledged that McCain voters probably would stink up the joint just as badly. - Yeti - 11/21/2008 8:36:09 PM
- Yet who elects the Right Wing. - Yeti - 11/21/2008 5:44:19 PM
- re: "How Obama got Elected" - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/20/2008 6:54:19 PM
  - "See my point?" - azstrummer - 11/20/2008 8:52:00 PM
- How Obama got Elected - ER - 11/20/2008 3:57:47 PM
- What's really interesting to me - azstrummer - 11/20/2008 2:58:08 PM
  - TB finally gets a "Liberal Art" education.... - ARRELL - 11/20/2008 6:39:01 PM
- If I were you, faced with those "facts" - azstrummer - 11/20/2008 2:40:12 PM
- I remember being with a group in a Christian church in 2004. - Bowser - 11/20/2008 3:46:11 AM
  - "The concensus was that Bush was a man of God, and he'd be led to the right decisions." - Lindy - 11/20/2008 11:55:11 PM
- You're STILL losers - Robert - 11/20/2008 12:51:18 AM
- Subtitle: "He Ran as the Anti-Bush" - Mary Anne - 11/20/2008 12:31:12 AM
  - Pollsters too? Say it ain't so... - ER - 11/20/2008 12:58:09 AM
    - Oh, cool... - Mary Anne - 11/22/2008 11:11:11 PM
- Classic. Publishing bad news is not media bias. A train wreck is a train wreck. - Bowser - 11/19/2008 11:51:30 PM
  - Your response indicates that you didn't even look at the links. (n/t) - TB - 11/20/2008 12:54:58 AM
    - My apologies. I'm too used to the media conspiracy excuse. For everything. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/20/2008 1:07:48 AM
- re: "How Obama got Elected" - Yeti - 11/19/2008 9:54:00 PM
  - re: "How Obama got Elected" - TB - 11/20/2008 12:53:59 AM
    - Gutter politics Tom, you're lending credence to the Yeti. (n/t) - RobVG - 11/20/2008 1:38:33 AM
      - The point, and there was one... - TB - 11/20/2008 2:56:46 AM
        
        Power in Congress - azstrummer - 11/20/2008 3:14:52 PM
        
        12 "chosen" Obama voters do not make a poll. - RobVG - 11/20/2008 3:32:12 AM
        
        Zogby polled 512 people. - TB - 11/20/2008 7:37:29 AM
        
        "Nobody actually reads these links..." - RobVG - 11/20/2008 3:10:16 PM
        
        It was further down the page. - TB - 11/21/2008 3:43:52 AM
        
        I suggest... - alcaray - 11/21/2008 7:13:51 PM
        
        Alcary- don't be like all your idiot ilk. It is just plain obvious. - Yeti-Channels-TB - 11/21/2008 7:25:32 PM
        
        Sigh.... At least SDAI and Lee understand me... Really, what other company do I need? (n/t) - Yeti-Continues-As-TB - 11/21/2008 7:28:13 PM
        
        PS while I'm on the subject... - alcaray - 11/21/2008 7:20:19 PM
        
        How about this: - TB - 11/21/2008 7:52:34 PM
        
        Woo hoo - Lindy Hawn - 11/23/2008 5:45:07 AM
        
        re: Woo hoo - TB - 11/23/2008 7:42:33 PM
        
        If that one person left is you..... - Lindy - 11/24/2008 4:02:53 AM
        
        wow - alcaray - 11/21/2008 8:02:01 PM
        
        "I get yelled at for treating people like idiots" - McFly - 11/21/2008 6:54:02 PM
  - 538 - et - 11/19/2008 11:52:21 PM
    - re: Did he actually call him a pin head? - Yeti - 11/20/2008 9:19:01 PM
  - More - Yeti - 11/19/2008 9:56:27 PM

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