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• We Could Have Done This the Right Way - How Ali Soufan, an FBI agent, got Abu Zubaydah to talk without torture. - z - 4/30/2009 8:59:58 PM
  • A pro - E.P. - 5/1/2009 9:23:54 PM
  • Interesting... - TB - 4/30/2009 11:26:11 PM
    • That's like saying that we should never speak of how terribly wrong FDR was - z - 5/1/2009 2:52:55 AM
      • And how long did that take? Not until 1980. (n/t) - TB - 5/1/2009 3:01:41 AM
        • So you want us to wait until all the people involved are dead? - Mary Anne - 5/1/2009 1:44:10 PM
          • Why did they wait last time? - TB - 5/1/2009 5:53:22 PM
            • "It's about ripping the head off the Bush Administration and pissing down the neck" - Lindy - 5/2/2009 3:31:13 PM
            • Wrong party? You don't see any other difference between FDR and W? (n/t) - alcaray - 5/1/2009 11:52:02 PM
              • Quite a few. - TB - 5/2/2009 12:48:59 AM
                • Wow (n/t) - alcaray - 5/2/2009 4:35:37 AM
                • Funny thing is - Buck Galaxy - 5/2/2009 4:11:37 AM
                  • Q.E.D. - TB - 5/2/2009 5:35:20 PM
            • Perhaps you have it, TB - E.P. - 5/1/2009 9:26:20 PM
    • The point (and there is one): - Mary Anne - 5/1/2009 1:00:40 AM
      • re: The point (and there is one): - TB - 5/1/2009 2:32:40 AM
        • With the release of the memos, people who were torn between their orders and their consciences are now free to speak. - Mary Anne - 5/1/2009 1:27:56 PM
        • How long do shame, anger, and disgust last? - alcaray - 5/1/2009 5:21:17 AM
        • Does the spotlight feel uncomfortable? - Buck Galaxy - 5/1/2009 2:48:50 AM
          • You know Buck... - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/1/2009 3:37:45 AM
            • It's delightful that you are so eager for there to be a terror attack to rehabilitate your hero. - Mary Anne - 5/1/2009 2:25:40 PM
              • No, I;m not eager. - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/1/2009 9:06:21 PM
            • Torture has been proven to be unreliable for getting information so your entire premise is wrong. - Buck Galaxy - 5/1/2009 4:42:45 AM
              • And GHWB was responsible for the 1st WTC attack right?. - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/1/2009 5:03:59 AM
                • Torture degrades civil law. Martial law starts with that. - Mary Anne - 5/1/2009 1:32:41 PM
          • For me, or those trying to move it? - TB - 5/1/2009 2:54:05 AM
    • American principles, values, are important to liberals. - Bowser - 4/30/2009 11:53:54 PM
      • For example, the Constitution. Here's one Conservative view. - Bowser - 5/1/2009 12:56:57 AM