Please. I was getting that kind of argument when I was in college.

I was given no choice on either Social Security or Medicare. I could refuse the Social Security benefits, and kiss goodbye to the six figures I've already paid into the system. What does that get me?

Thanks to the enthusiastic social engineers, it's no longer even possible for someone of Medicare age to locate a completely private health insurance policy separate from Medicare.

As for the rest, you might try an exercise: Add up what the government spends on all the parks, all the roads, all the fire departments, all the police departments, all the sewage systems and water systems, all the libaries, all the streetlights, all the schools, and every other dumbass thing that is rattled off when someone tries to make the point that without a government that is near-infinite in size, my life would be miserable.

How big a government does that actually add up to? Do you honestly think we're running trillion dollar deficits on highway construction, libraries, or park rangers?

Subtract entitlements from the Federal budget, and it's about 40 percent of its current size. Including the DoD.

And now they're going for the entire health care system. At some point people need to decide if they want to be citizens or subjects.