B.D.:

You have demonstrated that you know little in the way of any of the sciences... and that you know nothing of the scientific method. Alex and Nick are BOTH respected scientists, wheras you just seem to be a nasty little loon with a desire to publicize your silly little agenda. You seem to recognize at least some of this to be true because you repeatedly resort to quoting the CV'S of those you feel have published or said something you can use for your purposes...

Alex and Nick agree on some things and disagree on others... Their ideas are based on years of intensive education and research... not on skimming for articles they can use to support their preconcieved notions... I am willing to bet that, if faced with logical proof they were wrong, they would each be willing to say oh well, I was wrong.... In fact I think if we were to ask them they would both admit that their theories are both "wrong" in that, when we actually go there, mars will show us things we did not consider... the contest between them is only "who is closer to the truth".

I doubt they would spend their time searching for articles and CVs of those that supported their views...

I have YET to see you debate the scientific merits of your position... all you do is post CVs and quote from your heroes... You havent shown us that you have even the weakest grasp of the subjects you post...

Until you learn to think scientifically...( heck I would like to just see you think!) ...I will have zero respect for you...

In short Barry, you are a talentless hack clinging desperately to the coat tails of whomever you think will rub some credibility off on you... It won't wash here, and frankly you have to be a complete moron to keep posting your agenda here.... (and the use of fake posters supporting you just makes you seem all the more pathetic).

This is a board for intelligent discussion... not "my hero's citation list is longer than yours"

You pervert facts to get noticed... you are not a serious researcher or even a student... just a sad little creature wanting attention... and your greatest argument for success is the publications of those you worship...

How very sad...