Which is exactly what happened under Bush-Cheney.

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bowser — 5/27/2012 4:41:11 AM (archived)

That's why progressives opposed all of those unconstitutional infringements on privacy, all of those human rights violations, the illegal wars. Those who are in favor of those deserve neither Liberty nor Safety, and we have diminished access to both.

Damned Conservatives. Ben F. had them figured out.

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enlightened absolutism - FrankC - 5/26/2012 1:44:47 AM
- Re: enlightened absolutism - Jody - 5/27/2012 4:31:56 AM
  - Which is exactly what happened under Bush-Cheney. - bowser - 5/27/2012 4:41:11 AM
    - Re: Which is exactly what happened under Bush-Cheney. - Jody - 5/27/2012 6:12:34 PM
- Here's the deal: - TB - 5/26/2012 5:37:32 PM
  - Yes, there's the rub... - FrankC - 5/27/2012 12:21:31 AM
    - Self-government - Robert - 5/27/2012 1:43:07 AM
      - It's engineering. - TB - 5/27/2012 2:19:56 AM
        
        The conservative credo: "Find out what worked. Do it again." - Robert - 5/27/2012 5:49:16 PM
        
        Re: The conservative credo: "Find out what worked. Do it again." - TB - 5/27/2012 7:36:54 PM
        
        That's policy, not the design of the government n/t - Robert - 5/27/2012 11:34:24 PM
    - It is fairly simple. - TB - 5/27/2012 1:05:29 AM
      - Doesn't seem like you read Frank's post - Robert - 5/27/2012 1:50:20 AM
        
        The fundamental principles haven't changed. - TB - 5/27/2012 1:59:17 AM
        
        Re: The fundamental principles haven't changed. - Jody - 5/27/2012 4:17:02 AM
        
        The problem is definitely succession - FrankC - 5/27/2012 5:50:54 AM
        
        Re: The problem is definitely succession - Jody - 5/27/2012 4:42:51 PM
        
        Same with my grandsons - FrankC - 5/27/2012 7:03:46 PM
        
        As I told Robert, don't confuse political liberty with existential liberty. - TB - 5/27/2012 7:50:22 PM
        
        Re: Same with my grandsons - Jody - 5/27/2012 7:27:32 PM
        
        Re: The problem is definitely succession - TB - 5/27/2012 4:38:26 PM
        
        The definition of liberty changes in a crowded society - Robert - 5/27/2012 6:08:06 PM
        
        I meant "political liberty," of course, not the "liberty" to do whatever you want no matter what the damage. - TB - 5/27/2012 6:41:56 PM
        
        Aren't you the one who insists that everything in life is political? - Robert - 5/27/2012 11:56:14 PM
        
        Re: Aren't you the one who insists that everything in life is political? - TB - 5/28/2012 12:32:33 AM
        
        Re: The problem is definitely succession - Jody - 5/27/2012 4:46:33 PM
- Great post and topic. - bowser - 5/26/2012 2:08:39 AM
  - Not to put too fine a point on it... - TB - 5/26/2012 3:06:43 AM
    - Simplistic. - bowser - 5/26/2012 3:21:45 AM

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