Dan wrote:
"If you're looking for liars and cheaters, look to your local, state and national political leaders. We are a nation of people well-practiced in the tradition of electing the best liars and the best cheaters -- or at least the best ones in the running."

I see, and when the pro-clintonians made the post-lewinsky argument that "everyone does it", were you swayed morally, logically or philosophically by that argument? Probably not.

And that was lies concerning a consensual act of sex. Here we have around 10,000 dead people- Civilain, military and American Military.

Concerned at all?

Dan wrote:
"If you're looking for conspiracy and disinformation crimes, by all means look to the leaders within the Middle East -- particularly those trying to build private little USSRs."

Again, see above. That they are jackals excuses us behaving as jackals? Do you spend a lot of time with little children? As this is precisely the sort of relativistic moral arguments they make.

Dan wrote:
"Dunno why the “free-thinkers” of the West continue to balk at their own elected leaders on Capitol Hill, while at the same time praising the rulers of the Middle East as staunch leaders of truth and justice -- Israel included."

Okay, dan- I agree with you regarding Israel. However, notice that this administration holds the princes of Saud in the highest regards.

Davin